Keeping Magazines loaded good/bad?

[Stanze]

All my mags are kept fully loaded and all my guns in my safe are loaded, chamber empty except my GLOCK 17 which is kept fully loaded.

[sloguy]

This practice is causing more wear on your mags than keeping them loaded would. Cycling the mags by loading/ unloading them is harder on the springs than leaving them loaded would.

i admit that it does cause more wear, but, the life of a spring is pretty long. its such a small level of wear that its far more valuable to me, and i assume others, to have a freshly oiled, and loaded magazine than the savings of leaving one loaded for months on end with no fresh oil, or lint removal.

its just so little wear that its not a big deal. for contrast, do you try to not sit on your bed unless your sleeping? because the springs in your matress are a lot harder to replace, and far more expensive than magazine springs.

[DRM6000]

i keep one mag loaded full and two others loaded only up to 5. if someone breaks in, so i limit myself when shooting someone.

i heard you cant shoot a guy more than 3 or 5 rounds or its attempted murder. im not sure.

DO IT AMERICAN HISTORY X STYLE.

what if you miss 5 times or if the threat is not immobilized? you shoot the intruder as many times as necessary to stop the threat.

[pbrand]

Deadly force is justifiable as long as the person is an imminent unlawful deadly threat to you or someone else. You must truly fear of death or GBI.

Number of rounds fired does not represent any type of murder.

The person must be armed with a weapon or it is considered murder. They can break in to your home and if they are not armed you cannot shoot them. One place to find this information is your handgun cert. booklet. (That is how I understood it when i read it anyway)

Also, it is probably best to use a shotgun for home defense so you do not experience wall penetration and unintentionally harm someone or something. I have an AR-15, but since i live in an apartment complex i dare not use it for self defense. In fact if someone broke in i would never even shoot them unless they fired first. I would put a couple rounds in the ceiling to scare them away.

Or you could load the 2 blank rounds in the magazine as a means to scare an intruder off! I just thought of that. Maybe its a good idea, maybe not, but it sounds good.

[Hunter]

The person must be armed with a weapon or it is considered murder. They can break in to your home and if they are not armed you can not shoot them. One place to find this information is your handgun cert. booklet. (That is how I understood it when i read it anyway)

Not true. A person can defend against (and kill) an intruder in their home without the intruder having a weapon and it still would be ruled self defense if the threat of danger is present. So in the middle of the night a person enters your bedroom, how are you to determine if that person has a gun, knife or just wants to strangle you or your family with their hands??? I'm not going to wait to see what they may or maynot have...my assesment is my family is in grave danger so I will shoot first, check later.

[pbrand]

Also wanted to add that if anyone, child or whomever, gets ahold of the gun you left loaded and unlocked and harms or kills a person, you are responsible for that murder.

[pbrand]

Not true. A person can defend against (and kill) an intruder in their home without the intruder having a weapon and it still would be ruled self defense if the threat of danger is present. So in the middle of the night a person enters your bedroom, how are you to determine if that person has a gun, knife or just wants to strangle you or your family with their hands??? I'm not going to wait to see what they may or maynot have...my assesment is my family is in grave danger so I will shoot first, check later.

I 100% absolutely agree with you! But i would double check that information because i am almost positive they must be armed. If you have your handgun safety cert booklet read in the back.

[What Just Happened?]

Download by one round if it's making you lose sleep; the reduction in strain on the spring is geometrically lessened; I forget the exact formulae that I saw once. I wouldn't worry about it.

The force a spring exerts is F=kx, where k is the spring constant and x is the displacement.

[QuarterBoreGunner]

The force a spring exerts is F=kx, where k is the spring constant and x is the displacement.

Ok, I'm going to go with this.

Actually I personally download my AR rifle 30 round mags by 2 rounds, simply because they're easier to seat positively when changing mags with the bolt forward. Why would anyone be changing mags with the bolt forward? Stuff happens... bolt catches break. It's an imperfect world.

[ohsmily]

Ok, I'm going to go with this.

Why would anyone be changing mags with the bolt forward? Stuff happens... bolt catches break. It's an imperfect world.

Have you heard of a "tactical reload"....

[savasyn]

because i am almost positive they must be armed.

If that were true, and a perp was strangling you/your wife/kid, but weren't carrying a weapon, you couldn't legally shoot them in self defense.

Sorry, I'm going to have to go with "shoot if you legitimately fear for your life or GBI" on this one.

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Oh yeah, I download 2 rounds per defense mag and leave them loaded that way for 3 months at a time then rotate to another set of mags.

[ohsmily]

But i would double check that information because i am almost positive they must be armed. If you have your handgun safety cert booklet read in the back.

That is ridiculous and untrue. I can come up with many different scenarios where someone would be justified in using deadly force when the assailant doesn't have a weapon.

[pbrand]

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/tips.php

You may be guilty of a misdemeanor or a felony if you keep a loaded firearm within any premises that are under your custody or control and a child under 18 years of age obtains and uses it, resulting in injury or death, or carries it to a public place, unless you stored the firearm in a locked container or locked the firearm with a locking device to temporarily keep it from functioning.

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/hscsg.pdf

pages 37-38

Based on this information I would fire my weapon as a LAST resort.

[ohsmily]

Based on this information I would fire my weapon as a LAST resort.

Of course. That should be obvious. You shouldn't consider taking anyone's life unless it is a last resort meaning you are reasonably in fear of imminent death or great bodily harm. That is the whole point. That is the standard. An armed 110 pound woman who is about to be attacked by an unarmed 350 pound 6'5" man would have no problem articulating that she was in fear for her life or great bodily harm.

Your assertion that someone has to be armed to legally shoot them is absurd.

P.S. why did you cite code referencing access to a firearm by a minor; that was irrelevant to your statement about shooting an unarmed assailant.

[AJAX22]

i admit that it does cause more wear, but, the life of a spring is pretty long. its such a small level of wear that its far more valuable to me, and i assume others, to have a freshly oiled, and loaded magazine than the savings of leaving one loaded for months on end with no fresh oil, or lint removal.

its just so little wear that its not a big deal. for contrast, do you try to not sit on your bed unless your sleeping? because the springs in your matress are a lot harder to replace, and far more expensive than magazine springs.

For HD guns I would reccomend dedicating your most reliable mag, and using dry lubricant (graphite) and ammunition which is not waxed or oiled

with aluminum USGI mags on AR15's you don't really have to worry about rust if you have corrosion resistant springs, and graphite works as well or better than oil in mags and doesn't attract dust dirt and grime.

another good option for those of us who've got em, are the chinese drum mags for the AK47 which allow you do release the tension on the mag and wind it when needed.

Beta mags are also certified to be reliable when stored for long periods of time loaded.