Cannot pursue my hobby!!!

[Muscles Glasses]

So then don't do it and buy guns when you move out and can actually afford it. I fail to see the conflict here other than your parents not agreeing with your hobby and you having no choice in the matter while living under their roof. If your parents don't like your hobby and you can't convince them to accept it, move out or find a different hobby in the meantime.

Sounds like a plan, thanks for the input.

[Whatisthis?]

Their house, their rules.

+ one flippin million

It's hard to understand now while you live there, but most people understand that either once they move out or when they have kids themselves. If you're living there past 18, it's their rules. I know plenty of people that have been in similar situations.

Ex) My gf's father's neighbor's son was 19 and got a job at Costco or something. He started getting a couple promotions and was making quite a bit of money working full time (he wasn't going to college). His father doesn't quite understand longer term consequences, and so when the son told the father that he wanted to get a $25,000+ car (don't remember what kind at all), the dad just sort of said if he can make the payments then it's fine. Well now the kid is going to struggle to move out when he wants to cus he has car payments up his a**. The dad should have just been like, "you can get the car, but you have to move out" or something along the lines. I mean the father didn't have the son pay rent or put money aside for savings. I know the father and he was trying his best, but looking back, having learned what I learned (I'm only 20, so I'm obviously still learning) there were obvious things I would have done differently. Hopefully the son will learn from any of these things causing consequences.

Just some thoughts of mine. I feel for parents it can be rather hard to know what lessons should be learned on their own and what lessons need to be more taught. I feel this one about "their house, their rules" is fairly clear. I know this example was on the more drastic side, but I know plenty of people that have been put in this situation for anything near $1000 objects. Hell, my dad would probably never have let me live in his house and own a firearm. That's just the way he is. He isn't anti-gun or anything, he just thinks that they are unnecessary as he lives in a what I feel was a really safe neighborhood with a police officer living 3 doors down (this officer was always watching the neighborhood too). Then add in the fact that they had a 4 year old living there 5 nights a week and it becomes more of a potential hazard. Even if I do show him I can be responsible, I would have to do that under the same roof as the 4 year old. There are ways around it, but it should be my responsibility and not my dads to check my gun(s). If he doesn't want to do it, he doesn't need to. His house, his rules.

EDIT: Screw good deals. Respect your parents.

[psango]

Just a suggestion

It may take a little longer to finish college but get a part time job or even full time and and move out. Take 12 units a quarter rather than 15 or 18. It's makes you grow up faster.

I worked all through college and it gave me a jump on the job market. I had a part time job in my intended field before I even graduated. My agency sent me through the local police academy the year before I graduated college, I finished my last year, and had both my degree and my job. Living on my own was a fun and rewarding experience, I met many new people (girls), they prefer a guy that can take them to his own place.

I also gained the confidence and maturity needed for my work. You may find your new friends (girls) more interesting than building AR's or AKs. When you finish school you might even move to a free state where you can buy the stuff you want.

Or join the military they have all the weapons you could ever want.

[NoHeavyHitter]

[Shellshocker66]

OK so another spin. Just wait the 25 to 30 years it will be before your parents live with you because they are too elderly to be on their own. Now plan your revenge with what you won't allow them to bring home!

Actually I joke! My 88 year old mother lives with me and still tells me what to do, right down to the "isn't that gun illegal you need to get rid of it"! For a bb'd AR with 10 round mags.

[CaliforniaLiberal]

OP, you should hire a lawyer and get a couple of lawsuits against your parents filed. Not only are they violating the sanctity of your personal mail they are depriving you of your 2nd Amendment Rights! That's just not fair!

They should be grateful for the privilege of providing you with food and shelter at no cost to you. It is your birthright. You're a full grown adult now and shouldn't have to abide by any parental restrictions any more.

With any luck you can get a judgement against them and take the house and put them on the street.

And you are correct, the supply of parts kits is dwindling away to nothing even as we speak. Everyone else is already well supplied for the coming years, why aren't you? Also, don't forget that the UN Small Arms Treaty will outlaw the importation of all firearms parts kits as well as assembled firearms. Boy, are you screwed.

Man, oh man, does your life suck or what?

[pacifico23]

OP, you should hire a lawyer and get a couple of lawsuits against your parents filed. Not only are they violating the sanctity of your personal mail they are depriving you of your 2nd Amendment Rights! That's just not fair!

They should be grateful for the privilege of providing you with food and shelter at no cost to you. It is your birthright. You're a full grown adult now and shouldn't have to abide by any parental restrictions any more.

With any luck you can get a judgement against them and take the house and put them on the street.

And you are correct, the supply of parts kits is dwindling away to nothing even as we speak. Everyone else is already well supplied for the coming years, why aren't you? Also, don't forget that the UN Small Arms Treaty will outlaw the importation of all firearms parts kits as well as assembled firearms. Boy, are you screwed.

Man, oh man, does your life suck or what?

Yeah thats one smart move. Sue your freaking parents because you cant build AK's on their property. Im sure that will go over with the rest of the family real well. Also better be prepared to be completely independent, cause I have a feeling most parents would literally disown their kids after that. Its their house their rules, if my son couldnt respect that and sued me cause of it... Oh man. That would be treading on very dangerous water.

Op follow this advice if you want to be banished from your family, and probably written out of the will. .

[Merc1138]

Yeah thats one smart move. Sue your freaking parents because you cant build AK's on their property. Im sure that will go over with the rest of the family real well. Also better be prepared to be completely independent, cause I have a feeling most parents would literally disown their kids after that. Its their house their rules, if my son couldnt respect that and sued me cause of it... Oh man. That would be treading on very dangerous water.

Op follow this advice if you want to be banished from your family, and probably written out of the will. .

Change the batteries in your sarcasm detector.

[Fastattack]

Dude, as Agent J said to Newton in MiB II,
"...move your bum a**
out of your mom's house."

You aren't gonna change your folks opinion.

[IntoForever]

Another option, get a mail box at one of the corner mail stores, have all your mail sent there now. Get a small storage locker and keep everything your parents don't need to see in storage.

[bob_e95482]

My father disaproves of me riding motorcycles and owning guns. We don't talk anymore.

[DiscoBayJoe]

OP, you should hire a lawyer and get a couple of lawsuits against your parents filed. Not only are they violating the sanctity of your personal mail they are depriving you of your 2nd Amendment Rights! That's just not fair!

They should be grateful for the privilege of providing you with food and shelter at no cost to you. It is your birthright. You're a full grown adult now and shouldn't have to abide by any parental restrictions any more.

With any luck you can get a judgement against them and take the house and put them on the street.

And you are correct, the supply of parts kits is dwindling away to nothing even as we speak. Everyone else is already well supplied for the coming years, why aren't you? Also, don't forget that the UN Small Arms Treaty will outlaw the importation of all firearms parts kits as well as assembled firearms. Boy, are you screwed.

Man, oh man, does your life suck or what?

Post of the Week!

[USMC 82-86]

I loved golf in HS and when I went into the military and for many years after that I was unable to play because I could not afford the sport I loved. It takes time to build a life and after that foundation is established you will have the resources to enjoy your hobbie. If you try it the other way around you may suffer many days of not having basic needs met. Good luck in finding a solution to your problem. There were a lot of days in my learning curve of life that I would have given anything to be in your position. You are a lucky individual so enjoy it while you can.

[bruss01]

You tried education, and negotiation... so you get points for being reasonable up front.

Now, look down between your legs. No doubt you will find something there that will enable you to stride out into the world and make your own home and your own way. Yes, school may take you a bit longer to complete while working enough hours at menial labor to put a roof over your head, but that is the price of independence. I applaud your interest in guns, but here's a fact of life you should squarely face in the interest of being totally honest with yourself. If you can't afford a roof over your head, can you afford guns and ammo? What you're basically doing is taking money you would otherwise spend on rent, electricity and other utilities, and spending it on guns. So your folks basically are subsidizing your "hobby". I suppose you have not looked at it that way before, but you should. And if you do not have time for a part time or even a full time job while you further your education, then do you really have time to fiddle with guns and go to the range? Again, in terms of time instead of money, your parents are being asked to subsidize your hobby by allowing you to live in their home.

I understand, it's a tough world out there and it's tough working and going to school. I can say that because I've done it and I know it's damn hard sometimes. For what it's worth, I am siding with you in your argument, but in the final analysis you have to fight according to the rules of the dojo you happen to be in, and in this case the odds are all against you.

Declare your independence, find your own means of support, move your possessions to a place where you call the shots. Yes it's tough but it is the most liberating thing in the world. Good luck!

On the other hand... if you want someone to put a roof over your head and food in your gullet while furthering your interest in firearms who will also give you money and help you further your education... my guess would be you could find someone to oblige. If you can't, ask the nearest army or marine recruiter, maybe he will have some suggestions.

[Scout2Diesel]

Invest in inflation...somewhere else. But the key is to invest regularly. There will always be a new hobby to get into if you have funds. I would be more concerened in a top quality pistol(s) when your 21.