Mobile AK flat bending services in socal up for offer. new price list/breakdown.

[Kmullen]

Let me know what drill bits and reamers you guys need I think I can give to the cause.
Kevin

[AJAX22]

Let me know what drill bits and reamers you guys need I think I can give to the cause.
Kevin

Here's a list borrowed from CNCGUNSMITHING

I need to get one of there jigs for drilling the bolt catch hole, but the all steel drill jig that I have is probably better for communal use for drilling the rest of the holes.

1/4 Drill - # 60221496 - $2.15 http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNSRIT?PMAKA=60221496
5/32 Drill - # 81181109 - $1.69

http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNSRIT?PMAKA=81181109

13/64 Drill - # 60221462 - $1.69

http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNSRIT?PMAKA=60221462

3/8 Drill - # 81181240 - $5.42

http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNSRIT?PMAKA=81181240

1/8 Drill - # 60221413 - $1.15

http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNSRIT?PMAKA=60221413

#42 Aircraft Extension Drill - # 01008424 - $1.49

http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNSRIT?PMAKA=01008424

1 1/8 Drill - # 01341080 - $25.75

http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNSRIT?PMAKA=01341080

1 3/16 -16 Tap - # 04863155 - $78.17

http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNSRIT?PMAKA=04863155

1/4 - 28 Tap - #04460309 - $2.05

http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNSRIT?PMPXNO=1732599&PMT4NO=7840602

I already purchased a cheaper non US made buffer tap (hey college student budget.. At least I'm trying) and I think a 1 1/8 ream would work better than a drill bit for use in a small drill press (they are not as stiff or accurate turning large bits), but will probably cost a bit more.

Anyway, My plan was to buy the tooling myself in a month or two use it to finish up my homemade pistol build and make it available to the rest of you guys (through SAL's generosity), but if people want to get the ball rolling quicker thats ok too.

[Sal]

there is probably a cheaper way to get all of the bits and tap listed by buying the set link is here:

https://www.vbd.com/noc/shop/products_detail.asp?CategoryID=49&ProductID=139

Like Ajax has said, I dont like to take donations/charity stuff, and I'd rather accumulate all of this stuff on my own. I think he feels the same since we'd be the ones in possession of the stuff most of the time. This however will take awhile to purchase for the two of us, so if people so desire we will take a pool purchase of tooling, which will be available to anyone that wants to build an AK or AR pistol.

Also, for you people up north, I go up to santa cruz every few months to see my GF while shes at school there, i may be able to be persuaded to bring the tooling and have you guys up there build receivers.

Pretty much the things needed to have a completely mobile operation to do both AR and AK recivers would be:

Small-medium drill press that could be taken and carried around in a trunk of a car(has to be a good quality one though, the cheap ones wont hold center)

Spot welder- cheap harbor freight one is fine for this

Drill bits and reamer for the AR lowers

Barrel dies and guides for re-threading barrels after they are cut, and crowning tools as well(only if i cant get advanced notice for a pistol kit and crown on the lathe)

Thats all thats needed, but things that could make the ARs a whole lot easier would be to have:

CNC gunsmithing AR drill jig the one we have doesnt have holes for the smaller detent holes, which will make it harder to get the lowers right but we do already have a jig that is cheaper and will work but not as good and as quicly that it could be. (this could be a pool item if its wanted)

Like I said earlier though we prefer to slowly accumulate this stuff on our own, but will accept the tooling from those who want it done faster. The reason being, we'd have the tooling with us, tooling will break/wear down with use and other things such as this, and we'd hate to feel like we owed the purchasers.

I'm going to have to make a flat order, so those interested in AK flats please let me know how many you guys want each and i'll send in for those, just send me a PM with a number of flats.

[pepsi2451]

That really is a good deal. After DROS and everything I paid about $110 for a reciever that I couldn't even build into a pistol. Too bad I live way up hear by OR.

[AJAX22]

we do already have a jig that is cheaper and will work but not as good and as quicly that it could be. (this could be a pool item if its wanted)

Actually the Jig we have is the much more expensive (about 3 times the price) solid steel one thats designed for heavy use, the only problem is that it is not set up for drilling some of the smaller holes bolt catch etc. which the CNC jig does a great job with.

[Sal]

AH, yeah i wasnt sure if you had the cheaper one, i do remember it being very nice, but you said it wouldnt line up some of the holes so i wasnt sure what you had.

[AJAX22]

AH, yeah i wasnt sure if you had the cheaper one, i do remember it being very nice, but you said it wouldnt line up some of the holes so i wasnt sure what you had.

It lines up just fine for drilling all its intended holes, the problem is that it doesnt have provisions for drilling some of the smaller detent holes and the bolt catch hole.

What we have here, is failure to communicate

[thedonger]

I'd be in for making a few. Sounds like a great Idea to me.

[fast318]

I'm in! I go up to SGV from San Diego to visit family and friends.

[jester]

I'm interested!!!
And I'm relatively close too.
Now I just have to find my 2 flats!!
Btt!
Can we get a sticky here?

[ar15barrels]

Here's a list borrowed from CNCGUNSMITHING

I need to get one of there jigs for drilling the bolt catch hole, but the all steel drill jig that I have is probably better for communal use for drilling the rest of the holes.

1/4 Drill - # 60221496 - $2.15 http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNSRIT?PMAKA=60221496
5/32 Drill - # 81181109 - $1.69

http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNSRIT?PMAKA=81181109

13/64 Drill - # 60221462 - $1.69

http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNSRIT?PMAKA=60221462

3/8 Drill - # 81181240 - $5.42

http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNSRIT?PMAKA=81181240

1/8 Drill - # 60221413 - $1.15

http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNSRIT?PMAKA=60221413

#42 Aircraft Extension Drill - # 01008424 - $1.49

http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNSRIT?PMAKA=01008424

1 1/8 Drill - # 01341080 - $25.75

http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNSRIT?PMAKA=01341080

1 3/16 -16 Tap - # 04863155 - $78.17

http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNSRIT?PMAKA=04863155

1/4 - 28 Tap - #04460309 - $2.05

http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNSRIT?PMPXNO=1732599&PMT4NO=7840602

I already purchased a cheaper non US made buffer tap (hey college student budget.. At least I'm trying) and I think a 1 1/8 ream would work better than a drill bit for use in a small drill press (they are not as stiff or accurate turning large bits), but will probably cost a bit more.

Anyway, My plan was to buy the tooling myself in a month or two use it to finish up my homemade pistol build and make it available to the rest of you guys (through SAL's generosity), but if people want to get the ball rolling quicker thats ok too.

This looks like a list of tools to complete an AR receiver.
I thought this thread was about AK lowers.

Can we make AR pistols if we pin the mag and complete an 80% receiver ourselves?

[AJAX22]

This looks like a list of tools to complete an AR receiver.
I thought this thread was about AK lowers.

Can we make AR pistols if we pin the mag and complete an 80% receiver ourselves?

Yep, thats the next 'mobile OLL party' project.

I've got the Jig In my trunk if you'd like to use it, it makes fixturing the lower very easy.

You don't technically have to pin the mag unless you are building a semi auto, I rather like the idea of a long range bolt action pistol with a beta mag

But if you want to do a semi auto, then yes you can 'roll your own' the hardest part of the AR's is making the pistol markings and serial/makers mark/city and state of manufacture on the lower (Required for CA)

If there is a way to build it in a non AW, non NFA configuration, then yes you can build it yourself. The sky is the limit.

[Sal]

the problem with anyone having their own flats is that the $20 im charging INCLUDES a flat and the use and instruction of the bender.

The flats i use are the new style with the upper rails pre-bent and i'd really prefer to only do those style flats as it will take alot longer to complete the non enhanced flats, it also does damage the bender when you have to hammer the rails flat on top. If your set on bending the old type, we can do those, but they will take alot longer to complete, and i cant guarantee that the upper rails will come out right as i've never used the old style flats.

that drill size list is to do AR pistols, which i plan to offer a mobile service for as well, and even 1911 frames after that when funding allows me to pick up the tooling for those.

[ar15barrels]

Yep, thats the next 'mobile OLL party' project.

I've got the Jig In my trunk if you'd like to use it, it makes fixturing the lower very easy.

I have access to one of CNC's drill jigs.
I use it in the mill and indicate to each hole location as well using the DRO and the print.
This has worked good for me so far.

Beware cheap drill presses and poor quality drill bits.
Both will make a mess of an otherwise good 80% AR lower.
I only know this because I have had a few "homebuilts" through my shop for repairs to make the receivers function.

[AJAX22]

I've screwed a few things up with cheap bits myself (not guns thank G*d, but other stuff)

the reason this is taking so long is that we're trying not to skimp on the tooling, we're trying to find a tabletop craftsman or other quality drillpress with a solid set of bearings and a good spindle.

I'd love to go all Von dutch on this and stick a full sized lathe and mill in a schoolbus with a generator, but for now just a quality drill press is more in line with the scale we're looking at.