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  • #16
    ar15barrels
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2006
    • 57143

    Originally posted by ivanimal
    Sure, sounds great no punitive measures for the thief. That will end the car thefts. I dont like seeing this end to the situation either but he should not go scott free. How many innocent lives did he endanger flying through the steets at 90 miles an hour? I dont know the facts here but I assume a stolen car and a high speed chase are not conducive to a slap on the wrist.
    I'm thinking that car security systems need to start including a taser that electrocutes the thief when trying to start a car that has not had the security system properly disabled.

    All these technologies supposedly going into smart guns could easily be applied to cars.
    Thumbprint identifier on the outside of the car.
    Walk up to the car, touch your thumb to the pad and the doors unlock.
    Touch your finger to a "start" button on the dash and the car starts.
    How simple is that?

    Combine the security system with the onstar and a simple system to lock the doors and gas the thief.
    Thief breaks into the car.
    Attempts to start it without properly disabling the alarm.
    Car doors lock.
    Gas is administered to knock out the thief.
    Onstar alerts the authorities.
    Police arrive to a subdued thief.
    How hard is that to do?

    We have too many damn lawyers.

    Put a touch screen on the steering wheel and the thief gets a prompt: "You have not properly dis-abled the security system.
    You will be locked in the car and gassed if you attempt to start the car again"
    "to continue, press start, to cancel, get out of the car"
    Last edited by ar15barrels; 10-03-2007, 11:13 AM.
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    • #17
      Stormfeather
      Calguns Addict
      • Jan 2006
      • 7739

      Originally posted by ar15barrels
      I'm thinking that car security systems need to start including a taser that electrocutes the thief when trying to start a car that has not had the security system properly disabled.

      All these technologies supposedly going into smart guns could easily be applied to cars.
      Thumbprint identifier on the outside of the car.
      Walk up to the car, touch your thumb to the pad and the doors unlock.
      Touch your finger to a "start" button on the dash and the car starts.
      How simple is that?

      Combine the security system with the onstar and a simple system to lock the doors and gas the thief.
      Thief breaks into the car.
      Attempts to start it without properly disabling the alarm.
      Car doors lock.
      Gas is administered to knock out the thief.
      Onstar alerts the authorities.
      Police arrive to a subdued thief.
      How hard is that to do?

      We have too many damn lawyers.

      Put a touch screen on the steering wheel and the thief gets a prompt: "You have not properly dis-abled the security system.
      You will be locked in the car and gassed if you attempt to start the car again"
      "to continue, press start, to cancel, get out of the car"
      I LIKE THIS IDEA!
      Originally posted by Soldier415
      I am naked except for seatless white chaps, a boonie hat and a tactical vest playing HALO.
      Originally posted by oaklander
      I don't like getting my butt kicked, but I would like to have it spanked by some big hairy guys!
      Originally posted by ohsmily
      I wouldn't put "mounting a weasel" past too many people on this forum.
      Originally posted by hoffmang
      Going after the NFA soon is like asking the girl you just met in the bar if she's into anal sex...
      -Gene

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      • #18
        Stormfeather
        Calguns Addict
        • Jan 2006
        • 7739

        Originally posted by U2BassAce
        Hmmm... I will give ya $100.00 for the truck right here right now, You arent going to want to clean up all that blood and mess, so sell it to me! heheh! I got this design for a SUV Tecnical I want to try out! heheh
        Originally posted by Soldier415
        I am naked except for seatless white chaps, a boonie hat and a tactical vest playing HALO.
        Originally posted by oaklander
        I don't like getting my butt kicked, but I would like to have it spanked by some big hairy guys!
        Originally posted by ohsmily
        I wouldn't put "mounting a weasel" past too many people on this forum.
        Originally posted by hoffmang
        Going after the NFA soon is like asking the girl you just met in the bar if she's into anal sex...
        -Gene

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        • #19
          ibanezfoo
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Apr 2007
          • 12068

          Originally posted by ar15barrels
          Exactly.
          I would rather they just drove it around for a couple weeks until they steal something else than get it back full of bullet holes and broken windows.
          Other than the broken windows I wouldn't mind the bullet holes. I'd put a little notice near them about how these took care of the last guy who stole this vehicle, you want to be next? Something to that effect...

          -Bryan
          vindicta inducit ad salutem?

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          • #20
            ibanezfoo
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Apr 2007
            • 12068

            Originally posted by ar15barrels
            I'm thinking that car security systems need to start including a taser that electrocutes the thief when trying to start a car that has not had the security system properly disabled.
            They already have devices like the club that do this, though I don't know if they are legal or not.

            Originally posted by ar15barrels
            doors and gas the thief.
            Thief breaks into the car.
            Attempts to start it without properly disabling the alarm.
            Car doors lock.
            Gas is administered to knock out the thief.
            Onstar alerts the authorities.
            Police arrive to a subdued thief.
            How hard is that to do?
            They have this too. My friend has something like this on his Z. He pranks his friends by logging into a web page when they are driving his car and he turns it off via satellite. I'm not sure how it all works but he says its funny as hell.

            -Bryan
            Last edited by ibanezfoo; 10-03-2007, 2:48 PM.
            vindicta inducit ad salutem?

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            • #21
              ar15barrels
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2006
              • 57143

              Originally posted by ibanezfoo
              They have this too. My friend has something like this on his Z. He pranks his friends by logging into a web page when they are driving his car and he turns it off via satellite. I'm not sure how it all works but he says its funny as hell.
              I'm talking about un-attended gassing of a car thief, not playing with your friends via the web.
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              • #22
                Res
                Senior Member
                • May 2006
                • 1633

                Originally posted by ar15barrels
                I'm talking about un-attended gassing of a car thief, not playing with your friends via the web.
                those are cool ideas, but i think there is just too much that could go wrong. Like if you were driving on the highway and it accidentally goes off. The results could be devastating.
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                • #23
                  ar15barrels
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 57143

                  Originally posted by Res
                  those are cool ideas, but i think there is just too much that could go wrong. Like if you were driving on the highway and it accidentally goes off. The results could be devastating.
                  How often do airbags accidentally go off?
                  These are handled by an explosive charge.
                  The knock-out gas could be just as safe.
                  Randall Rausch

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                  Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                  Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                  Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
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                  • #24
                    Salty
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 573

                    I realize that he was a dirtbag, but you don't just shoot someone for not getting out of a car.

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                    • #25
                      Salty
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 573



                      That dosen't look suspicious...

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                      • #26
                        dwtt
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 7470

                        Good thing this wasn't the LA Sheriff's department, otherwise there would have been 170 shots fired and only one hit the bad guy, in the foot.

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                        • #27
                          FUSE
                          Member
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 319

                          Damm thats crazy I used to work right next to the dyer on/off ramp... I guessed I missed this one, at least I missed the traffic it's usually horrible to begin with! There is always crazy stuff going on in Santa Ana!!

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                          • #28
                            Super_tactical
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 798

                            I love how on calguns LEOs are looked down upon so much.
                            :rolleyes

                            I for one give the BoaD to the officer vs the gangbanger.
                            "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -Ben Franklin
                            (In honor of Blackwater Ops)

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                            • #29
                              M. Sage
                              Moderator Emeritus
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 19759

                              Originally posted by ar15barrels
                              I'm thinking that car security systems need to start including a taser that electrocutes the thief when trying to start a car that has not had the security system properly disabled.
                              You're just trying to get me zapped, aren't you?

                              Aftermarket alarms are total crap, truth be told.

                              Originally posted by ar15barrels
                              How often do airbags accidentally go off?
                              These are handled by an explosive charge.
                              The knock-out gas could be just as safe.
                              They're designed and built by manufacturers that (sometimes kind of) know what they're doing. Aftermarket alarm company engineering departments are staffed by chimpanzees. I've had to remove more than enough of the stupid things because of how badly-built they are.

                              Not to mention that what you're describing sounds a hell of a lot like a booby-trap, the setting of which is a felony, IIRC.

                              Originally posted by ibanezfoo
                              They have this too. My friend has something like this on his Z. He pranks his friends by logging into a web page when they are driving his car and he turns it off via satellite. I'm not sure how it all works but he says its funny as hell.

                              -Bryan
                              If that's true, tell your friend to make sure he never comes in for auto repair if he's in the Bay Area. Something like that goes off on a car when I'm working on it... it's on. The pedestrian alarm systems are enough of a PITA, despite being frighteningly easy to bypass.
                              Last edited by M. Sage; 10-03-2007, 9:24 PM.
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                              • #30
                                tyrist
                                Veteran Member
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 4564

                                If the female was a hostage it would explain the shooting. The officers would not give him another chance to flee with a hostage.

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