Is this Kosher?

[Surf & Turf]

I was at a store doing a PPT. The used handgun had the tupperware along with the original lock.

Upon paying for the DROS, I was told I had to buy a lock eventhough it came with a lock. The reason given is that it is the law that the lock has to have been purchased within the month otherwise a NEW lock needed to be bought.

I wanted to see the law but the guy could not produce it and said that this came down from the shop owner. This is a first for me at this location.

Could anyone please confirm. Thanks.

[Bill Carson]

Yuep, go back tomorrow with your receipt and return it.

[PsychGuy274]

They're either lying or misinformed; most likely misinformed. The guy who sold you the gun could've written you a receipt on a blank piece of paper. I've done it a bunch of times.

[blazeaglory]

The law says "unless one owns a lock already" it doesnt say it needs to be purchased within a month. Just says you have to have one prior to purchasing the gun and if not you need to buy one. The owner is dumb or wants your money

[Bill Carson]

http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/Buying_and_selling_firearms_in_California#Locks.2C_Safes.2C_and_Laws

[Bill Carson]

(e) The sale or transfer of a firearm shall be exempt from
subdivision (a) if all of the following apply:
(1) The purchaser or transferee purchases an approved safety
device no more than 30 days prior to the day the purchaser or
transferee takes possession of the firearm.
(2) The purchaser or transferee presents the approved safety
device to the firearms dealer when picking up the firearm.
(3) The purchaser or transferee presents an original receipt
to the firearms dealer which shows the date of purchase, the
name, and the model number of the safety device.
(4) The firearms dealer verifies that the requirements in (1)
to (3), inclusive, have been satisfied.
(5) The firearms dealer maintains a copy of the receipt along
with the dealers' record of sales of firearms.

[oni.dori]

Isn't this requirement null if you have a safe?

[Ed_Hazard]

Isn't this requirement null if you have a safe?

Long guns only.

[oni.dori]

Long guns only.

Ah yes, once again a reciculous, non-sensical caveat to CA gun laws. I was always thought that a safe > than a puny little "action lock" that was defeatable with cable cutters; but then again, there I go thinking again. Glad we have our betters to correct me...

[Librarian]

Ah yes, once again a reciculous, non-sensical caveat to CA gun laws. I was always thought that a safe > than a puny little "action lock" that was defeatable with cable cutters; but then again, there I go thinking again. Glad we have our betters to correct me...

Read the wiki at the link Bill Carson posted; it isn't CA this time, but BATF incompetence.

[Ctwo]

But, if the gun comes with its original lock, isn't that lock just recently purchased and satisfies all the requirements? Maybe the lock needs to be a line item? I did not read that the lock had to be "new"

New guns come with a lock which satisfy the requirement, why don't used ones that come with the same lock not satisfy the requirement?

[oni.dori]

Read the wiki at the link Bill Carson posted; it isn't CA this time, but BATF incompetence.

There seems not to be much difference between the two's MO lately.

[jyo]

Most of the stores I have PPTed with accept the orig. lock the gun came with when new---only Turner's insisted that I must purchase a new lock to do a PPT---I then kept the receipt and returned it in the next day or so. I don't do PPTs at Turner's anymore (or much else) because better deals can almost always be found and not having to deal with BS.

[biglou]

Seems like some gun shops want you to have a new lock and some don't. On the day you pick up your pistol go to Big 5 buy a lock and show them your new lock with receipt showing less than 30 days old, then return it.

[gunn]

Seems like some gun shops want you to have a new lock and some don't. On the day you pick up your pistol go to Big 5 buy a lock and show them your new lock with receipt showing less than 30 days old, then return it.

Don't forget Walmart's similar Lock rental service.
-g