Just got back from free America

[DedEye]

I really want some land in Montana or Wyoming big enough for a 1,000 yard range and an airfield, nothing more.

[MrLogan]

I can't wait to move to a free state.

[schizrade2]

Wow. It sure is difficult to remember that I'm not an instant suspect because I'm a gun owner.

Anywhooo... Went to Nevada to leave some copper and lead deposits in a hill side. Since I hadn't been to BLM land shooting in a long time, my buddies and I decided to stop by a local (Carson City) gun store to ask for directions to a good shooting spot. All 5 of us Cali residents walk in to the small store and find three grumpy looking older gents. All of us kinda looked at each other with that, "Oh man, this isn't going to be good" look on our faces. After getting within earshot of the owner, he greets us all individually and asks us if we need help (amazing service for a gun store. He must not know we're not locals.) So we ask where to go shoot and he tells us of a couple of spots. Then asks where we're from. UH OH... So my buddy says, "We're from the occupied land just west of here." The old guys chuckle and say, "Oh the PRK? Sorry to hear that fellas." So we chatted a while longer. Great guys, no, "WHAT? You're from CA? Get outta my store!" I think the place was called America West Guns, but I'm not certain.

Lol America West guns... is he still in business?
That place sucks.

[schizrade2]

Oooh, a Nevada thread!

Time for my Nevada-living self to rant a bit to tell you how Nevadans really think of you:

I haven't been out of California that long, but I have noticed that Nevadans don't typically hate Californians. They just think that the remaining decent Californians are really naive for putting up with all of the crap that they suffer. At least that, or you're just too chicken to leave. That's why you hear 'I'm sorry' with a smile when you tell a liberty-loving Nevadan that you're visiting from behind the Lavender Curtain. The rest of the undesirable Californians can stay where they are and stew in their own juices for all Nevada cares. Northern Nevadans do seem to dislike Southern Nevadans, however, and the sentiment is far stronger than the way that NorCal people look down upon SoCal people. The reason for this is that Las Vegas is where all of the fleeing lower middle class Californian ragamuffins usually end up, and they're looked upon as dirty footed liberal trash that elected the much hated Harry Reid. In contrast, Northern Nevadans are pretty hardcore conservative. Hell, I met the sheriff here and he reminded me exactly of Oliver North from FOX News' "War Stories". I think he even practices in front of a mirror when no-one's looking. You bet your butt he'll sign a Form 4. They charge a $25 fee for up to five machine gun transfers at a time, but they'll probably do as many as you want without fussin' at you. The plumper country girl who took my ATF fingerprints was really flirty with me and said she loves guns while pressing down with her soft little hands on my wedding ring to get my left ring finger printed, but I digress... Let's just say that there's a lot of swingers here in Reno.

Quite a lot of Nevadans are either former Californians themselves (particularly those in Southern Nevada, as I mentioned) or at least have family still living over the border. I do notice the occasional bumper sticker on trucks here that reads 'We don't care how you did it in California'. Nevadans know that they supply California's power, water, and house California's overflow criminals for which California pays handsomely. California wouldn't dare produce it's own unclean power, so they buy it from out of state and pretend that they're 'Green' and environmentally correct while driving in a traffic jam alone in their SUVs. Northern Nevadans savagely mock the garden-variety California liberal while at the same time feel just a bit of sorrow for the outnumbered California conservative. When I mean 'just a bit', I truly mean a very small amount. Some of you who have been to the Big Reno Show know what sort of sentiment I 'm talking about. They can tell you're a California boy before you've even opened your mouth to say something ignorant like 'Is there paperwork required for this gun?' ("Yep, just a small plastic card that says 'N-E-V-A-D-A' across the top and has your picture and address on it, mister.") and wonder by looking at you if those beaches you never go to are worth the liberty you surrendered to slave away for the greater glory of Queen California the Mad and her extraordinarily high taxes, insulting politicians, and incomprehensible laws. To the less-kind Nevadans, Californians are like a perverted laboratory experiment designed to see how long it takes to make a sane person go crazy. It's usually the former Californians who hold this sentiment.

There are really only two civic centers in which to live in Nevada (unless you're a REAL cowboy who lives out in Ely or Elko) and they both cater to the visiting hell-raising Californian come to wallow in sin and alcohol by the tens of thousands every weekend. To Nevadans, it's easy to blame every bad thing that happens in Reno or Las Vegas on Californians, but they tolerate it because Californians are paying Nevadans' state income taxes through gambling and traffic citations. Just keep in mind that in Reno, the very sight of graffiti is enough to warrant a police response. They just do not tolerate the imported California crime culture here. We have our own native Nevadan crime culture here, thank you very much, and it works just fine without any of your Californian influence butting in.

My local paper is filled with accounts of what some dumbass Californians did downtown this weekend. Every Monday morning, the jails finally release the hundreds of Californians that the Reno Sheriff's Department or NHP tossed in the slammer over the weekend for being wild and obnoxious. I've seen them myself stumbling out of jail into the sunlight with their ripped, torn, and bloodied FUBU and Raiders jerseys, UC school shirts, and other decidedly Californian style of dress that's more at home in the SF Bay Area than anywhere you could imagine in Northern Nevada. After meeting with the judge and given a fine or bail set at a certain amount, they get loaded onto a bus and taken to the impound yard where their cars with the California license plates are all waiting for them. Every self-respecting person in Reno who doesn't actually work in the gaming industry knows there is no reason at all to go downtown where the casinos are, much less on a weekend where the fender-bending Californians are driving under the influence and stabbing each other in the parking garages. The Nevada Highway Patrol also knows that every person they pull over has had numerous belts of free liquor while playing the stupid 'Texas Tea' machine, so they just immediately ask how much you've been drinking tonight. Oh, just two? Everyone says that. Why don't you step out of the car sir, please.

If it were hell-raising drunk Nevadans coming into California starting on Friday at noon all the way until Sunday at 4pm, Californians would have the same sentiment towards Nevadans rather than the reverse being true. That's why when Nevadans meet a Californian in an unlikely place (namely, anywhere outside the gambling and whoring areas of Reno and LV) it's a bit of a novelty to encounter them and you might actually get treated with a far greater measure of cordiality.

Oh man that is good.

[randy]

P Cowboy that was good. Pretty much describes how the people you meet going east on 80 have felt about Reno for the last 40 years.

[leelaw]

I really want some land in Montana or Wyoming big enough for a 1,000 yard range and an airfield, nothing more.

You're going to shoot down airplanes?!?!?

[wilit]

You're going to shoot down airplanes?!?!?

Sounds like we need a .50 cal ban! Oh wait.

I think there's been just as many planes shot down in America with a .50 cal as there have been crimes committed with bayonets affixed to AW's.

[pieeater]

National Forest where I shoot here in CA doesn't have any rules or rangemaster, so I know what freedom feels like in CA.

Yep and I open carry there and shoot AWs and 50 BMGs in the shade.

[pieeater]

Sounds like we need a .50 cal ban! Oh wait.

I think there's been just as many planes shot down in America with a .50 cal as there have been crimes committed with bayonets affixed to AW's.

We have one state ban, the next one will be federal.

[DedEye]

You're going to shoot down airplanes?!?!?

Lol.

Nah, but how great of a weekend retreat would it be to just fly to your private shooting spot?