Moving to New York! Firearm question...

[ceasefire15]

My wife and I are moving to New York next month. I currently own an AR-15 and a handgun. What are some of the important laws that I need to know so that I can bring my firearms with me? What's the process in transfering my firearms to comply with the law in NY? Any important restrictions that I need to know before moving in?


Thanks and will kindly appreciate the help and guidance.

[dieselpower]

I would go ask this question on a Florida website..or maybe a Texas website about Texas gun laws.

Can't think of any reason those two states wouldn't have information on New Yorks gun laws...can you?

Maybe someone here is from New York and can tell you the information... or you can just tell the New York Police...people in California, Texas and Florida told you it was ok... yeah that will work to stop the arrest. I hear New York LEA are real nice.

[ElvenSoul]

Guns I would be more woried about cold weather gear!

[ee2]

With job changes, I moved from Missouri to New York (Syracuse) and finally to LA. Moving in to New York State, there was no legal way to bring your handgun(s) into the state with you. You needed to establish residency, get your handgun permit, and then have your handgun(s) sent to a transfer FFL for you to pick up. If you are talking about NYC, forget it. You're screwed. I don't know the current status of an AR-15 style rifle in New York state, but there were never any for sale in the local gunshops or pawnshops in the 14 years that I lived there. There was apparently no equivalent of an "off-list" lower.

Moving to LA was much simpler. Bring my guns, fill out the papers, and pay the fee.

[yakmon]

i think the NY equivalent site is nyshooters.net

[TKM]

Look into a Brooklyn Special.

http://www.gunweek.com/2007/feature0701.html

[rero360]

With job changes, I moved from Missouri to New York (Syracuse) and finally to LA. Moving in to New York State, there was no legal way to bring your handgun(s) into the state with you. You needed to establish residency, get your handgun permit, and then have your handgun(s) sent to a transfer FFL for you to pick up. If you are talking about NYC, forget it. You're screwed. I don't know the current status of an AR-15 style rifle in New York state, but there were never any for sale in the local gunshops or pawnshops in the 14 years that I lived there. There was apparently no equivalent of an "off-list" lower.

Moving to LA was much simpler. Bring my guns, fill out the papers, and pay the fee.

I just moved here from Western NY last year. ee2 was pretty close, he is correct on the pistol issue, leave your pistol with someone out of NY, establish residency, get your permit and the pistol added to the permit then have it brought into the state, however I don't know if you need to have it go through a FFL, that may vary county to county. I do know in Western NY Monroe and Erie counties are pretty hard to get permits but most of the other counties from Onondaga county (Syracuse) and west are pretty easy.

As to ARs there, the laws are very similar to CAs laws, only you are allowed two evil features but they have more evil features on their list; flash hiders, bayo lugs, carry handle in addition to collapsible stock, pistol grip and detachable magazines. see post below for accurate info

Additionally their rifle OAL is the same as the Feds, 26" the the CA 30" No wait on purchases, cash and carry, and you can do all the FTF PPTs you want without going thru FFLs, even with pistols, you just have to draw up a bill of sales with the make and model, serial and take that to your county's pistol permit dept. and they'll add it to your permit.

Keep in mind my info might be incorrect if they have changed the laws over the last 14 months but thats the down and dirty of it from what i remember.

[cdtx2001]

I think bayonet lugs are a no-no in NY state.

[rero360]

was slightly wrong with what I posted above, found the actual wording:

An "assault weapon" means (a) a semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of the following characteristics: (i) a folding or telescoping stock; (ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon; (iii) a bayonet mount; (iv) a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; (v) a grenade launcher; or (b) a semiautomatic shotgun that has at least two of the following characteristics: (i) a folding or telescoping stock; (ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon; (iii) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of five rounds; (iv) an ability to accept a detachable magazine; or (c) a semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of the following characteristics: (i) an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip; (ii) a threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer; (iii) a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the non-trigger hand without being burned; (iv) a manufactured weight of fifty ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded; (v) a semiautomatic version of an automatic rifle, shotgun or firearm; or (d) any of the weapons, or functioning frames or receivers of such weapons, or copies or duplicates of such weapons, in any caliber, known as (i) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat Kalashnikovs (All Models); (ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil; (iii) Beretta Ar70 (Sc-70); (iv) Colt Ar-15;(v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC; (vi) SWD M 10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12; (vii) Steyr Aug; (viii) Intratec TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and (ix) Revolving Cylinder Shotguns, such as (or Similar to) the Streetsweeper and Striker 12; (e) provided, however, that such term does not include: (i) any rifle, shotgun or pistol that (a) is manually operated by bolt, pump, lever or slide-action; (b) has been rendered permanently inoperable; or (c) is an antique firearm as defined in 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(16); (ii) a semiautomatic rifle that cannot accept a detachable magazine that holds more than five rounds of ammunition; (iii) a semiautomatic shotgun that cannot hold more than five rounds of ammunition in a fixed or detachable magazine; (iv) a rifle, shotgun or pistol, or a replica or a duplicate thereof, specified in appendix A to section 922 of 18 U.S.C. as such weapon was manufactured on October 1, 1993. The mere fact that a weapon is not listed in appendix A shall not be construed to mean that such weapon is an assault weapon; or (v) a semiautomatic rifle, a semiautomatic shotgun or a semiautomatic pistol or any of the weapons defined in paragraph (d) of this subdivision lawfully possessed prior to September 14, 1994.

[rero360]

I bought my 1st AR in NY with no issues, it just had a plain muzzle, no bayo lug and a fixed stock, but I used all my normal magazines with no problems with no bullet button. I later had a Badger Ordnance thruster muzzle brake installed by Hart barrels (just south of Syracuse by the way)

[AJAX22]

NY state or city?

City has it's own set of restrictions...

[ceasefire15]

With job changes, I moved from Missouri to New York (Syracuse) and finally to LA. Moving in to New York State, there was no legal way to bring your handgun(s) into the state with you. You needed to establish residency, get your handgun permit, and then have your handgun(s) sent to a transfer FFL for you to pick up. If you are talking about NYC, forget it. You're screwed. I don't know the current status of an AR-15 style rifle in New York state, but there were never any for sale in the local gunshops or pawnshops in the 14 years that I lived there. There was apparently no equivalent of an "off-list" lower.

Moving to LA was much simpler. Bring my guns, fill out the papers, and pay the fee.

Thanks for your reply. I'm actually moving to Syracuse. So I guess I have to leave my firearms here in California before I settle down in NY. What's the process with the handgun permit?

[ceasefire15]

Guns I would be more woried about cold weather gear!

My guns keep me warm! I have the clothing part covered already.

[ceasefire15]

I just moved here from Western NY last year. ee2 was pretty close, he is correct on the pistol issue, leave your pistol with someone out of NY, establish residency, get your permit and the pistol added to the permit then have it brought into the state, however I don't know if you need to have it go through a FFL, that may vary county to county. I do know in Western NY Monroe and Erie counties are pretty hard to get permits but most of the other counties from Onondaga county (Syracuse) and west are pretty easy.

As to ARs there, the laws are very similar to CAs laws, only you are allowed two evil features but they have more evil features on their list; flash hiders, bayo lugs, carry handle in addition to collapsible stock, pistol grip and detachable magazines. see post below for accurate info

Additionally their rifle OAL is the same as the Feds, 26" the the CA 30" No wait on purchases, cash and carry, and you can do all the FTF PPTs you want without going thru FFLs, even with pistols, you just have to draw up a bill of sales with the make and model, serial and take that to your county's pistol permit dept. and they'll add it to your permit.

Keep in mind my info might be incorrect if they have changed the laws over the last 14 months but thats the down and dirty of it from what i remember.

this is very helpful. thanks.

[ceasefire15]

NY state or city?

City has it's own set of restrictions...

NY state...Syracuse to be exact.