BUG OUT! Whats in your KIt?

[joenoriega13]

So I know there are many different outlooks on the topic, but I for one am not a firm believer in the system. Don't get me wrong, if and when it comes time to defend my country and my family ill be right in front with the rest of you. but until that day I choose to stand my fair distance from the governments grasp.

So the question of the topic is, what is in your "Bug out bag" for the more rapidly approaching ""D-Day"" and if you don't yet have one but are thinking about getting one, what would you put in it.

This thread is 100% personal preference, so please don't diminish anyone's ideas. Just because you don't see the use of something and think it might be wasted space doesn't mean they do. everyone lives different lifestyles and hold different values in things.

The main purpose of this thread is so everyone can be prepared if and when something happens. Also to give people ideas they might not have had before reading the thread... thanks everyone for your input...

PS. Sorry if there is allready a thread stated like this, but I want a fresh look at things.







Ill start with whats in mine,

Springfield GI 1911 .45 w/4 mags and 500 rounds
Springfield XD .40 w/3 mags and 300 rounds
Walther PPK/s .380 w/ 5 mags and 100 rounds
Tactical machine AR-15 5.56 w/11 mags and 1000 rounds
2 pairs of camo paints
2 fire resistant camo long sleve shirts
3 pairs of undergarments for everyone in my family.
2 Medium sleeping bags
2 pairs of gloves
1 spool of fishing line
1 multi purpose knife
1 compass
1 camping hatchet
2 flint
10 days worth of MRE's for my wife, son and I
2 ounces of gold in case money isn't worth anything anymore
2 Led flashlights with extra batteries

I think that's all I have in there. I might be missing something so let me know what you have and I might add to my kit.

I know its more than fits in one bag, but I have it all set so I can have the truck loaded and be out of the house in 2 minutes. and I also have a much smaller bare necessities kit in my car.

[iareConfusE]

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/forumdisplay.php?f=76

There's a whole sub-forum for this, and lots of threads :|

[Helpful_Cub]

Springfield GI 1911 .45 w/4 mags and 500 rounds
Springfield XD .40 w/3 mags and 300 rounds
Walther PPK/s .380 w/ 5 mags and 100 rounds
Tactical machine AR-15 5.56 w/11 mags and 1000 rounds
2 pairs of camo paints
2 fire resistant camo long sleve shirts
3 pairs of undergarments for everyone in my family.
2 Medium sleeping bags
2 pairs of gloves
1 spool of fishing line
1 multi purpose knife
1 compass
1 camping hatchet
2 flint
10 days worth of MRE's for my wife, son and I
2 ounces of gold in case money isn't worth anything anymore
2 Led flashlights with extra batteries

First three quick things I see are:
#1. Common ammo issue. You have three different handgun rounds. Its better to have 3 guns with interchangeable parts, magazines and ammo. Having separate for rifle is OK, but you have to be willing to use it.

#2. Water. You have 10 days worth of food for 3 people but by the 3rd you'll be dieing of dehydration if not sooner. Water is not light, so you will need to change your arrangement for containers, filters, etc. You'll probably plan your escape route around the available water sources.

#3. Gold is nice, but silver is better for trading in smaller more practical amounts. One ounce of gold is around $1500 at the moment. One ounce of silver is around $36.

[stitch_paradox]

You forgot the most important thing to bring... water. You don't even have first aid kit.

[stitchnicklas]

case of playboy magazines and shotgun news...

[Black Majik]

Ill start with whats in mine,

Springfield GI 1911 .45 w/4 mags and 500 rounds
Springfield XD .40 w/3 mags and 300 rounds
Walther PPK/s .380 w/ 5 mags and 100 rounds
Tactical machine AR-15 5.56 w/11 mags and 1000 rounds
2 pairs of camo paints
2 fire resistant camo long sleve shirts
3 pairs of undergarments for everyone in my family.
2 Medium sleeping bags
2 pairs of gloves
1 spool of fishing line
1 multi purpose knife
1 compass
1 camping hatchet
2 flint
10 days worth of MRE's for my wife, son and I
2 ounces of gold in case money isn't worth anything anymore
2 Led flashlights with extra batteries

I think that's all I have in there. I might be missing something so let me know what you have and I might add to my kit.

I know its more than fits in one bag, but I have it all set so I can have the truck loaded and be out of the house in 2 minutes. and I also have a much smaller bare necessities kit in my car.

You're gonna haul 2000 rounds of centerfire ammo in your BOB? Good luck.

[Jake71]

Ill start with whats in mine,

Springfield GI 1911 .45 w/4 mags and 500 roundsSpringfield XD .40 w/3 mags and 300 roundsWalther PPK/s .380 w/ 5 mags and 100 rounds
Tactical machine AR-15 5.56 w/11 mags and 1000 rounds2 pairs of camo paints
2 fire resistant camo long sleve shirts
3 pairs of undergarments for everyone in my family.
2 Medium sleeping bags
2 pairs of gloves
1 spool of fishing line
1 multi purpose knife
1 compass
1 camping hatchet
2 flint
10 days worth of MRE's for my wife, son and I
2 ounces of gold in case money isn't worth anything anymore
2 Led flashlights with extra batteries

.

I want to see you carry that much ammunition for any length of time...

Seriously... are you driving out of the earthquake zone/natural disastere where law has been overlooked?

I have about 500 rounds in a can behind me and no damn way am I going to carry that heavy *** thing around with the other stuff that i would need. Let alone would my gf and my daughter be helping me carrry 1900 rounds of ammunition.

Where is that video on how much ammo weights and how much people claim they want to carry in their bug out bag.??

[Jake71]

My bag started with:

First Aid supplies (EMT level stuff not just bandies)
HK USP9mm 3 mags
AR15 3 mags
Knife
rolling suitcase with food in it (whatever we can find on sale mostly dried)
water filter handpump thing that filters many thousands of gallons of water (with filters)
camelback
ham radio
lighter and matches


thats close to it....

[joenoriega13]

Many people seem to have an issue with the amount of ammo I plan on taking. like I stated in my initial post, if I have to abandon the car I have a small BOB in the car and I would leave most of whats there behind. and the water is a good point, I didn't list having any water and I also forgot to list having a water filter, we always have a case of bottled water in the garage that I would throw in the car in the last minute, and by then I would hope I can find any source of water dirty or clean and purify it with my filter.

And the reason I have 3 different caliber hand guns is because in my tactical vest I have a space for each gun so I don't have to carry a case around, and depending on the length of the disaster, (I am planing for indefinite) when I run out of the ammo I have allotted for myself and my family it will be easier to find one of those 3 calibers than it will if I take say just the .40 cal. also my son is just a baby so if hes only 10 or 15 when this all happens I need a gun small enough for him to handle so he will have the .380 my wife will have the .40 and i will have the .45.

Also the gold and silver is a good idea, i do have 30 pieces of silver that I will probably take with me. I didn't really think it was worth it, but you make a good point.


thanks for everyones input, and please try to also post your list of the contents of your BOB

[coyotebait]

As stated, water is a priority. It appears that your bug out situation depends on your vehicle being a pert of it. What if the situation is a disaster that leaves roads impassable or an EMP leaving vehicles useless? I'd drop the ammo selection to 2 calibers. Multiple weapons firing the same caliber is better imo. Realistically, you could probably drop the number of 45 rounds to about 200 and the 223 to 200 or 300 also, probably even lower, depending on comfort. This will still be heavy but you could split it up between packs, depending on how old your kid is, it could be split 3 ways. In fact, if you're leaving on foot, depending on where you're located, (rural v. city) you may want to remove the rifle from the equation all together. If there's thugs or cops around, it could cause problems. If the thugs see the rifle, they may pop you in the back and take your stuff and your family, if you encounter the police, you've just become part of the problem. You'll want to blend in, hand guns are concealable. A good 22 with a brick or 2 of ammo is very light and more than adequate for obtaining food, small game. Where will you be bugging out to? Would bugging in be a better alternative? Where I am, I'm better off staying put. Bugging out may mean that you will be sleeping outdoors in BAD weather, bad things don't usually happen when it's 72 degrease and clear skies. If you have a bug out location (BOL) you can stock it up with rifles, ammo and all the supplies that you can't carry. BOL could be a cabin, a friends house, a family members house, hell, it could be a travel trailer on some property that someone you know owns. Obviously, what I've written is nothing more than an opinion, just giving you something to think about.

[coyotebait]

Many people seem to have an issue with the amount of ammo I plan on taking. like I stated in my initial post, if I have to abandon the car I have a small BOB in the car and I would leave most of whats there behind. and the water is a good point, I didn't list having any water and I also forgot to list having a water filter, we always have a case of bottled water in the garage that I would throw in the car in the last minute, and by then I would hope I can find any source of water dirty or clean and purify it with my filter.

And the reason I have 3 different caliber hand guns is because in my tactical vest I have a space for each gun so I don't have to carry a case around, and depending on the length of the disaster, (I am planing for indefinite) when I run out of the ammo I have allotted for myself and my family it will be easier to find one of those 3 calibers than it will if I take say just the .40 cal. also my son is just a baby so if hes only 10 or 15 when this all happens I need a gun small enough for him to handle so he will have the .380 my wife will have the .40 and i will have the .45.

Also the gold and silver is a good idea, i do have 30 pieces of silver that I will probably take with me. I didn't really think it was worth it, but you make a good point.


thanks for everyones input, and please try to also post your list of the contents of your BOB

Wear the vest if you want to, but I think that'll have you standing out like a sore thumb.
Don't sell your son short on what gun he can handle, my 10 year old was shootin my Glock 30 (compact 45) when he was 8.

[Maddog5150]

[GrizzlyGuy]

thanks for everyones input, and please try to also post your list of the contents of your BOB

Here are 1032 posts like that (as of a few days ago, that thread gets a lot of activity). See post #2 above and come join the fun.

[Sheepdog1968]

In the various vehicles I own, I keep 3 days of food & water for two, first aid kit, basic camping supplies, and one of those inexpensive 120ish part auto/home tool kits. For most likely things such as earthquakes and breaking down somewhere remote I'm fine.

I also prepared a grab n go backpack (mostly earthquake/natural disaster type mindset) that has food & water for 3 days plus other essentials. It is amazing at how heavy it is. I know I couldn't walk far with it.

Speaking of weight, bullets and guns get heavy quick. I see lots of appeal for a 22 LR such as a Marlin Papoose. Not saying that's my choice but I wouldn't fault anyone who choose it.

[bruss01]

So I know there are many different outlooks on the topic, but I for one am not a firm believer in the system. Don't get me wrong, if and when it comes time to defend my country and my family ill be right in front with the rest of you. but until that day I choose to stand my fair distance from the governments grasp.

So the question of the topic is, what is in your "Bug out bag" for the more rapidly approaching ""D-Day"" and if you don't yet have one but are thinking about getting one, what would you put in it.

This thread is 100% personal preference, so please don't diminish anyone's ideas. Just because you don't see the use of something and think it might be wasted space doesn't mean they do. everyone lives different lifestyles and hold different values in things.

The main purpose of this thread is so everyone can be prepared if and when something happens. Also to give people ideas they might not have had before reading the thread... thanks everyone for your input...

PS. Sorry if there is allready a thread stated like this, but I want a fresh look at things.







Ill start with whats in mine,

Springfield GI 1911 .45 w/4 mags and 500 rounds
Springfield XD .40 w/3 mags and 300 rounds
Walther PPK/s .380 w/ 5 mags and 100 rounds
Tactical machine AR-15 5.56 w/11 mags and 1000 rounds
2 pairs of camo paints
2 fire resistant camo long sleve shirts
3 pairs of undergarments for everyone in my family.
2 Medium sleeping bags
2 pairs of gloves
1 spool of fishing line
1 multi purpose knife
1 compass
1 camping hatchet
2 flint
10 days worth of MRE's for my wife, son and I
2 ounces of gold in case money isn't worth anything anymore
2 Led flashlights with extra batteries

I think that's all I have in there. I might be missing something so let me know what you have and I might add to my kit.

I know its more than fits in one bag, but I have it all set so I can have the truck loaded and be out of the house in 2 minutes. and I also have a much smaller bare necessities kit in my car.

Having a bare-necessities kit in the car is great. I'm assuming that kit contains fix-a-flat, tp, coins for parking meters, single bills/5's for tollway & parking ramps, maybe a small-limit credit card, and other essentials for an unexpected road trip. There should also be a pair of decent walking/hiking shoes for anyone who is likely to be in the car. Wouldn't it just be the thing to have you and the wife going out for a nice dinner or formal function, EMP or just car trouble happens, and you both have to hike home - with her in her high heels and you in those wing-tips that pinch your toes? Think about it.

Curious why you're going to strap on and carry provisions for 3 people. Wife doesn't have her own dedicated bag? Also, you mention your son is a baby... no baby supplies? 48 hours into a 72 hour bug out he will be pretty ripe and miserable, unbelievable rash, constant squalling... bad opsec and pretty hard on the kid. Figure how many diapers you use in 72 hours, then figure in 25% more because of stress his habits will be irregular, such as pooping a clean diaper you just changed because the old one was full of piss. Also didn't see any kid food. Not to mention the wife... just because you can choke down 3 mre's a day doesn't mean she can or will. The group only travels as fast as the slowest member. Her with no energy because she can't eat "that slop" as she puts it, makes the whole group vulnerable out alone on the road. Fem hygeine? Stress can kick start a woman's hormones, and have a period sooner than expected. Whatever she uses, pack some, enough for 3 days of vigorous activity. Kid carrier? Little legs (if he's walking) are slow and get tired quick. Your arms will be falling off after a mile or two if you have to hold him the whole way. A kid-carrier of some kind allows you to use your hands freely as needed. Of course, you may have to reposition some of the chest rig gear accordingly. A stroller might pull double duty as a gear wagon. Providing it's always in the car (otherwise it won't be there when needed, that's how life goes), and is sturdy enough to take 3 days of being pushed over irregular terrain.

Try to consolidate the guns and ammo. If there are going to be two people with handguns, they should share ammo and mags. One of the people needs a rifle. Ammo count has to be kept reasonable, this is "get out of dodge" not "start WWIII". One mag in the gun, two more on the person, seems reasonable. Anything else that you don't put in the bug out bag can go in an "extended outing" kit which can contain a lot of stuff you don't intend to carry on your person. You have to be able to carry your BOB on your back for 8 hours of walking for 72 consecutive hours out and still be in shape to deal with a challenge or conflict at the end of each day's 8 hr walk. If you can't do that then the pack is overloaded - or more accurately, YOU are overloaded.

Do this... put on your bug-out gear and then walk through 2 miles of the most urban terrain along any proposed bug-out route. First, was it practical in terms of "could you do that for 8 hours straight for 3 consecutive days". Then notice if you get any unwanted attention, as in, did the cops pull over and give you any grief about why you're duded up like a survivalist nutjob. LOL. Because 9 times out of 10 if something happens you have to leave on foot there will still be some kind of structure and those in charge will have to be accounted to. It happened in Katrina and that's about as bad as it gets barring a comet impact or EMP. Is your gear low-profile enough to not get noticed? Oh, and you rmembrered to put on the kid carrier and strap in a weighted pillow or something that's as heavy as your sleeping son? That's important. See if you can still get to all your gear, like your gun if a fight breaks out unexpectedly. And your canteen.

Eat the stuff you are planning to pack for 3 days... nothing else. See if it leaves you in functioning condition and if you could actually choke it down. One MRE on a camping trip for giggles is not the same as 9 of them over a 3 day trek. You may find your meal selection needs some fine-tuning.

IMHO the camping hatchet is a waste of weight in a BOB. Keep it in the car kit or the extended outing kit if you really want it. Most of the time you can break off small branches for the small cooking fires you'll make - no big bonfires on a bug out. Or gather wood scraps lying around. Burn a big log in the middle, push the ends in gradually as they are consumed. Not necessary to cut wood in order to have fire.

Take cash - small bills like 1's 5's and 10's. Unless the whole world collapses those are going to be mighty useful. don't count on places that are open and doing business being able to make change. If you need a $5 item and only have 20's, then you just paid $15 too much because you had to have it and they couldn't make change. Also take coins... pay phones, vending machines, parking meters, etc. can sometimes be lifesavers. Have a small balance credit card... let's say you finally get out of the disaster area, and you find the last motel room at the end of a very rough couple of days. Or you manage to get to a rental car place and they have one vehicle left. Both of those places will want a credit card to provide you service. Cash alone will not get the job done. And do not keep this card in your wallet along with all your other documents and resources... eggs all in one basket? Not good. Walets get lost, stolen, pickpocketed, etc... all the people this ever happened to thought there was no way it could happen to them. But it does. For the same reason don't keep all your cash together... some on you, some in your bag, maybe a bit tucked in the insole of your shoe, some on your wife, etc. Diversify the risk.

I think gold and silver may have a place in an "extended outing" kit for some kinds of extreme scenarios. I don't think you want those in the car on an everyday basis though. Silver is better in most cases because it is more easily divisible into useful amounts, although it does take up more volume and weight. I wouldn't put these in a general purpose BOB. Basic med kit - include pain relievers, stomach meds, immodium and moleskin at the very least. There will be alot of unaccustomed activity and you will need to keep moving forward despite pain, blisters, and a case of the squirts. Stress management is important. So is information. So a little radio of some kind to receive broadcasts is important. But expect that in the early phases, there will be conflicting reports and some downright misinformation about what is going on. Also, what "the authorities" tell people to do is frequently not the best course of action. Remember the Superdome?

You need either a lightweight backpacking tent or at least some plastic sheeting or a tarp for improvising shelter. Not all emergencies happen in good weather. Hypothermia and exposure are killers. Being able to put your car kit or your "extended outing" kit into one of those suitcases with wheels will help you take more weight than would be otherwise possible. Yeah, it's a variation on the "tactical wheelbarrow" theme. Whatever, it can work because you can't carry all that crap that you might legitimately need on your back. If you sprain an ankle or twist a knee, it could literally be a lifesaver.