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Firearm ownership question from your Dr.
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Firearm ownership question from your Dr.
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Then, Sir, we will give them the bayonet! (Stonewall Jackson's reply to Colonel B.E. Bee when he reported that the enemy were beating them back. At the first battle of Bull Run, July 1861)
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That's hilarious. I love it.NRA Life Member
No posts of mine on Calguns are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.
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Funny, and usefull all at the same time.
I had a blood test come back with very slightly elevated levels of lead, a few years back. I had been to a gun class about 2 weeks prior.
I just told the doc that I cast little toy Civil War soldiers as a hobby, and I use lead for that."Over-sentimentality, over-softness, in fact washiness and mushiness are the great dangers of this age and of this people. Unless we keep the barbarian virtue, gaining the civilized ones will be of little avail." - Theodore Roosevelt
sigpicNRA Benefactor MemberWould you people please stop bashing "Elmer Fudd?" After all, he was an avid sportsman, hunter, and 2a supporter. -Ed in SacComment
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I don't understand why doctors would care if you had any firearms in the house. I have never once in my life been asked this by any medical professional.
Me: Doc, I got a drip and it burns when I pee.
Doc: Do you have any firearms in the house?
Me:
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Who cares?
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You know YOU pay the doctor right? So you don't HAVE to answer his questions, only he has to answer yours.Last edited by Rhythm of Life; 06-01-2011, 11:57 AM.The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.Comment
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Kaiser P. has this on several of their health questionare. They clearly looked upon it as a "health risk" to own a firearm. Bastages.Comment
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From another forum:
Might need to bring that up to Kaiser.There's been a lot of FUD going around in this forum about how dangerous firearms are. So, how likely are you to be killed by a firearm?
I think it is reasonable to exclude those who are shot by the police out of necessity etc. and just focus on accidents and and firearm homicides.
According to the CDC:
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr52/nvsr52_13.pdf (page 17 of the PDF file)
There were 813 accidental deaths from firearms discharges in 2002, not appreciably up from the 802 from 2001. In both cases, the rate ends up being about 0.3 per 100,000. Elsewhere in the report it says that this rate has been constant for years.
On the next page, the number of homicides by discharge of firearms were 11,546 from 2002, again not appreciably higher from the 11,348 in 2001. The rate is about 4.0 per 100,000.
So, all in all, your chances of being murdered or accidentally killed by a discharge of a firearm is 4.3 in 100,000.
Now let's look at an article by the Journal of the American Medical Association:
The abstract tells us that "an estimated 44,000 to 98,000 [of Americans] die each year as a result of medical errors."
Here's a pretty good breakdown:
12,000 - unnecessary surgery (Leape L., Unecessarsary surgery, Annu Rev Public Health. 1992;13:363-383)
7,000 - medication errors in hospitals (Phillips D, Christenfeld N, Glynn L., Increase in US medication-error deaths between 1983 and 1993, Lancet. 1998;351:643-644)
20,000 - other errors in hospitals (Lazarou J, Pomeranz B, Corey P., Incidence of adverse drug reactions in hospitalized patients, JAMA. 1998;279:1200-1205)
(Note: the last source also cited 80,000 as dying from infections in hospitals; I'm not counting those.)
With these figures, we have 38,000 people dying from medical mistakes every year, below the lower estimate in the JAMA study cited above..
And yet, even this way-too-low number constitutes a rate of 14.2 out of 100,000—over three times the rate of firearm deaths! If we go by the range in the above survey, the rate is anywhere from 16.4 (44,000) to 36.5 (98,000) out of 100,000, or up to over eight times the rate of firearm deaths!
So, do we need some doctor control now? Maybe not ban doctors, but instigate a 12-day waiting period before they can perform a surgical procedure, run a background check on them whenever they enter the hospital, issue mandatory scalpel locks...
...okay, I'm being facetious, but it does help put the politics of the gun control people into perspective. Where's all the outrage against these deaths from medical mistakes?The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.Comment
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Just tell them you only chew gum from mexico and you had 'special' drywall imported from china.With all this "gun control" talk, I've not heard one politician say how they plan on taking guns from criminals, just law abiding Citizens.
Originally posted by Nose Nuggets5 guys, hot damn thats some good eat'n.Originally posted by pyromenschdamn, i duped my own thread...first time i did a pollComment
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haa i do ww1 soldiersFunny, and usefull all at the same time.
I had a blood test come back with very slightly elevated levels of lead, a few years back. I had been to a gun class about 2 weeks prior.
I just told the doc that I cast little toy Civil War soldiers as a hobby, and I use lead for that.
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When he asks you if you have guns just look up at him with the creepiest look you can manage and say, "If I say yes can I have a cavity search?"I am a law enforcement officer in the state of Colorado. Nothing I post is legal advice of any kind.
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. I even CCW'd (legally) at my last exam to see if he'd make me.
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