Dear Iggy

[Super_tactical]

Those are some nice firearms. You chose well.

Now show us the rest of your collection

Thanks. These are the cream of my crop though. I don't have any nicer guns...yet...

[dwtt]

No mag locks, fpg, pg, f/h, f/stock... I am buying a supressor next week as well. I just may stay in FL for a while.

You are getting a MP5 to go along with that suppressor, aren't you?

[Super_tactical]

You are getting a MP5 to go along with that suppressor, aren't you?

:drool

[CRTguns]

law says:
Semi auto, centerfire firearm with (DM or PG, interchangeable) with one or more of the following:

FPG, FH, etc...

4 of these features is bad... if yer in the PRK of course. I just like to see us give less credibility to Chinn's arguments.

No name calling or insults, regardless of who it is.

[jmlivingston]

law says:
Semi auto, centerfire firearm with (DM or PG, interchangeable) with one or more of the following:

FPG, FH, etc...

No, it doesn't say that. I suggest you review the AW identification guide (page 71) located on the DoJBoF website. Pay particular attention to the first sentence of 12271,1(a)(1).

Oh hell, I've got it open in the other window of my browser. It says:

Rifles
(1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of
the following:

(A) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon.
(B) A thumbhole stock.
(C) A folding or telescoping stock.
(D) A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
(E) A flash suppressor.
(F) A forward pistol grip.

(2) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10
rounds.
(3) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length of less than 30 inches.

In other words, if that rifle has no capacity to accept a detachable magazine then it's not an assault weapon.

John

[Super_tactical]

FPG is fine on a fixed mag build. That's the way I had it in CA.

FPG is a GREAT mod IMHO. Very easy to swing around and aim the AR with double PGs.

[Flux Capacitor]

Whats the black rifle third from the right standing up?

[ivanimal]

Look like a saiga.

[rg_1111@yahoo.com]

So it's legal to have a FPG with a BB? Or not.

[jmlivingston]

So it's legal to have a FPG with a BB? Or not.

Does using a BB give you a "capacity to accept a detachable magazine"?

John

[Steyr_223]

Saiga 308 with PG is illegal unless its a fixed mag..Say that Saiga 308 is so fixed..Or you added the 922 stuff..

[Super_tactical]

Ok, the black rifle is not a saiga, it is a VEPR II .308 cal. The mag is not fixed. I am not in the PRK right now, so theres no need for that! To answer the other question... a fpg is just as legal as a regular pistol grip if your mag is fixed. I consider a BB to be a fixed mag because it can no longer accept a DETACHABLE mag. I had a BB and a fpg in CA... Ig never knocked on my door.

[CRTguns]

No, it doesn't say that. I suggest you review the AW identification guide (page 71) located on the DoJBoF website. Pay particular attention to the first sentence of 12271,1(a)(1).

Oh hell, I've got it open in the other window of my browser. It says:



In other words, if that rifle has no capacity to accept a detachable magazine then it's not an assault weapon.

John

You are right... it IS 3 + 1 = AW.

BUT...

In my case, recently dismissed in court, I was being prosecuted on the premise that 2+2=AW.

Your interpetation of the law will not save you- heck- a Judge's interpretation will not save you. Not until the people in SAC are gone.

[Sam Hainn]

You are right... it IS Your interpetation of the law will not save you- heck- a Judge's interpretation will not save you. Not until the people in SAC are gone.

Interpretation? What interpretation would that be? The law is clearly written out regarding tangible real-world objects, in absolute yes/no, & in full detail.

This is one of the oldest covered topics covered over & over since the OLL thing was just an idea. What are you not getting? what text of the law are you pointing that leads to an interpretation otherwise?

[CRTguns]

Bro... I know what the law says- I can read and infer its meaning. My attorney can do the same. The law, in reference to these rifles, has done little to protect the average gun owner from seizures and malicious prosecution by the BOF and the local DA. I just closed a case that's been draggging on since September 2006- I was accused of selling assault weapons by the BOF. The guns I sold WERE fixed mag guns, definable by the printed law as legal non-assault weapons.

The law will not protect you from getting into a case with the state gov. The law might get you out of trouble, but this won't justify the $$$$$$ that you paid an attorney to represent you- or the $$$$$$ you pay an FFL to hold you guns while you are considered INELIGIBLE to possess, cause your'e under indictment for felony charges... Or your ruined reputation that possibly costs you your job cause your'e under indictment for felony charges. Or the sleep you loose or the hair you lose cause your'e under indictment for felony charges.

Be careful- I've been there. It sucks.