Golf buddy shocked over my ccw

[paul0660]

The last two guys are agreeing with each other, with a difference in terminology.

[donny douchebag]

the issue at hand is nothing to do with a "gun nut". it's about someone virtually stumblin' over themselves looking for an opportunity to divulge they're carrying a firearm. it's the last type of person we need representing the group as a whole.

Lmao. There are none so blind as those who refuse to see...

[rockman]

the issue at hand is nothing to do with a "gun nut". it's about someone virtually stumblin' over themselves looking for an opportunity to divulge they're carrying a firearm. it's the last type of person we need representing the group as a whole.

The group as a whole you refer to seems to be very judgemental. Very eager to bash and post opinions stating what they feel the OP was trying to protray. I thought the group at calguns was a little more supportiave of our gun rights. I am finding out that alot of calgunners are very negative in their comments not supportive. I have always tried to leave positive remarks in the threads, but I guess thats old fashion.

[xrMike]

The 1st rule of CCW is, you do not ________________________ .

The 2nd rule of CCW is, you DO NOT ________________________ !!!

[stix213]

Not to derail the OP bash thread, but I don't really have a problem with what the OP did. Its not like he was wearing this shirt:



He was having a discussion with an anti that thought guns meant death, and to prove him wrong he said he has a gun in his bag right now and implied that no there is a gun here and you haven't died yet fool. Give the OP a break here.

[paul0660]

Not to derail the OP bash thread, but I don't really have a problem with what the OP did. Its not like he was wearing this shirt:



He was having a discussion with an anti that thought guns meant death, and to prove him wrong he said he has a gun in his bag right now and implied that no there is a gun here and you haven't died yet fool. Give the OP a break here.

You are pretty much factually correct, and if his golf buddy really did think that a gun within 50 yards was going to reach out and kill him, then the buddy was proven wrong. In my opinion, since making that argument was farcical at best, the OP needs to figure out if it is ok for everyone to know, because that is the inevitable end. No two ways about it. If you yak about it, everyone will know, no matter how big the town. That is why those CCW badges don't sell. The guys who want them, don't need them anymore.

[blakdawg]

He was having a discussion with an anti that thought guns meant death, and to prove him wrong he said he has a gun in his bag right now and implied that no there is a gun here and you haven't died yet fool. Give the OP a break here.

I think the best way to understand how serious anti's think about guns is to just think of the word "rattlesnake" everywhere we would use the word "gun". When we say "I have a gun in my pants right now", it's like someone told me they have a rattlesnake in their pants. If someone told me that, the only question in my mind is whether or not they would get bit before the snake bites me.

If someone wanted me to learn that rattlesnakes really aren't that bad after all, I would respond much better if they spent a couple of hours teaching me slowly about rattlesnakes, let me watch some other people handle them carefully without getting bit, then maybe handle a baby one myself under controlled and nonthreatening circumstances .. if they just start out with "oh, by the way, you didn't notice it but there's a rattlesnake under your chair right now!" I am going to be scared and pissed off and my opinion of people who like rattlesnakes is not going to be improved.

It's all a learning experience. I had to say a bunch of stupid crap to my first girlfriends to figure out what not to say to women so now I can get along pretty well with my wife. It would be nice if we always knew how to do stuff right the first time but that's not usually how it works.

[nosuchagency]

The group as a whole you refer to seems to be very judgemental. Very eager to bash and post opinions stating what they feel the OP was trying to protray. I thought the group at calguns was a little more supportiave of our gun rights. I am finding out that alot of calgunners are very negative in their comments not supportive. I have always tried to leave positive remarks in the threads, but I guess thats old fashion.

if your intention was merely to educate, i apologize for my response. i still believe you exercised poor judgement and should have backed off instead of continuing to drive the point home.

blackdawg's analogy is spot on and obvioulsly expressed in a much more constructive manner.

Lmao. There are none so blind as those who refuse to see...

easy there, tyler...

[j1133s]

I was golfing yesterday with one of my golfing buddies. We were standing on the 8th tee and he asked me what other interests or hobbies I had. I informed him that I love to shoot my handguns. He was totally shocked and appaled that I could even like guns. He stated "GUNS KILL PEOPLE", and I calmly told him no they don't, PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE. I told him that saying guns kill people, is the same as saying pencils make spelling mistakes. I then told him that I have a ccw. He looked at me kinda queer and asked what the hell that was. So I told him, and he started backing away from me. I then I informed him that one of my carry guns was in my golf bag. He turned real pale and I thought he was going to piss himself. A few holes later I asked him why he was so anti-gun, and he said he was'nt reallyanti- guns, as long as only hunters used them. I told him I believed every law abiding american should have the right to own and carry a gun if they choose to. He said they did, and I had to inform him, not according to our state good ole Ca. Really curious how he will react next time I see him on the golf course.

I hardly ever tell people about my gun hobby due to many issues that can arrise out of it like what you've encountered.

However, when I do talk about guns and shooting, I frame it as a sporting event, where I'd tell them I shoot competitively. This seems to calm everybody down and the conversation almost always heads to olympic shooting events. This is a good way to mention the other internation and national shooting events.

I never tell people anything about conceal carry. I just don't think people who don't even know that I own guns needs to know that info.

[j1133s]

It is evident to me that you do not have a permit, because that is the opposite attitude most do. More prepared, less vincible, and impressed only with the responsibility another option creates.

It is evident to me that you either don't have a permit or are very new at ccw and have not taken much ccw related ccw classes yet.

When you have a weapon on you, it should not elevate your situational awareness or modify your normal course of actions because you shold always be vigilent and confrontation avoiding whether with or without a weapon on you.

From what you posted, it sounded like your behavior changes when you carry a weapon. Why ?