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  • #76
    appagohm
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 1123

    What about super man vs us army. Granted that we don't have kryonite, we would have to cover the sun up some how to reduce supermans power!!. What about Magneto from X-Men?? but then again we have non magnetic bullets. How about

    Goku from Dragon ball, he could blow up the world and just teleport to another....
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    • #77
      110
      Member
      • Aug 2010
      • 140


      this is how we won the Iran-Iraq war...

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      • #78
        Kala
        Member
        • Oct 2010
        • 133

        Well, seeing as machine guns are force multipliers, and munitions would not be a problem, than I would say the marines would have the advantage. They could always do what people did in WWI and dig trench lines. Set up a few interlocking field of fire MG positions, along with snipers and infantrymen, than your golden. I imagine what happened during the battle of the Somme except the attacking force didn't have artillery or guns and were set at a further location. Either way, massive casualties for the Persians.

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        • #79
          23 Blast
          Veteran Member
          • Dec 2009
          • 3754

          110, Iran didn't win the Iran-Iraq War. Technically speaking it was a tie just like the War of 1812, but American history books call it a victory.

          As far as the Persians against the Marines, I think that the Mobile Infantry would wipe the floor with them both, but Superman and the Justice League would just break up the fighting, holding the Marine lieutenant and the Persian commander up by the scruff of their necks until they apologized to one another and shook hands like in a GI Joe public service announcement.

          But then BA Barracus and the A-team would come charging into the fray, shooting their Mini 14s (but not hitting anything) while every chariot in the Persian Army got upended with cool special-effects explosions.

          Michael Bay and James Cameron have a fistfight for the right to direct the movie, but the Marine liutenant acquiesces to let Michael Moore do the movie because Xerxes promises him and his Marines a one month liberty in his private harem of 1000 nubile young women.


          Don't like it?

          Hey, that's as realistic as unlimited ammo and guns that won't overheat.
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          • #80
            berto
            Calguns Addict
            • Oct 2005
            • 7723

            The Persian body count would be obscene but in the end their superior numbers, ~34,000-1, would win out. How many Marines leave the fight to deal with each casualty? What effect do casualties have on mobility?
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            • #81
              SnWnMe
              Calguns Addict
              • Feb 2007
              • 6897

              Yup. One only has to answer: How fast can you kill 34,000 people using only conventional weapons?
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              • #82
                M. Sage
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                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Jul 2006
                • 19759

                Hmm, you know I've been reading about some of the adventures (and misadventures) of early automatic weapons in combat against primitive cultures. I'm coming to the conclusion that the Marines in this scenario would walk away from that fight. When you're reading about Gatlings or Maxims opening up on people armed with spears and bows at a distance of 1000 yards and simply decimating them... One of the earlier uses of the Maxim by the Brits resulted in something like 10,000 killed with only a few Brits lost, and those because they stumbled into a protected draw that was filled with the people they were fighting. And that was before the application of modern machine gun doctrines.
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                • #83
                  meaty-btz
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                  • Sep 2010
                  • 8980

                  Without trying to be racist. Brits vs Primitive TRIBAL spear chucking cultures is vastly different than a massive ancient imperial army. One organized and trained in tactics, logistics, explosives, fire, and bio-weapons.

                  Most of the enemies of the Brits were not even wearing armor, nor trained in tactics. Let me put it this way. The persian army would be happy to send in 20,000 slaves into the face of machine guns, knowing full well they would be wiped out within hours, before they reached the position if only to bring up heavy bows and litterally rain 7-9k arrows in ONE volley onto the marine position killing them all instantly. Even if you wiped out half the archers before they fired one shot they would still be able to fire an arrow volley that would wipe out the marine position in a single volley.

                  If the Marines survive that, the Persians would send in sappers and TUNNEL to a near position or right under them. Even if it took months, everyone understimates HUMAN power and what it can be used to make happen. When you have thousands of slaves or drafted laberors you can dig hundreds of yards with ease. Even more so if don't care about their lives, even more if you can force the labor from local civilians.

                  There are tons of ways to forcible build earthworks forward till then can bring the archers in under cover to end things favorably. Tribal cultures don't have the psychology to face massive losses. Unlike the movie 300, the Spartans lost. On top of that the Persians were quite willing and happy to absorb terrible losses. What stoped them was the SEASONS, not the Spartans. An army the size they fielded required good conditions and roads to move forward. Logistics is a huge thing when moving such an Army forward.

                  The actual defeat of Xerxes army required the combined forces of the entire Greek civilization and it was BLOODY.
                  Last edited by meaty-btz; 03-20-2011, 1:44 AM.
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                  • #84
                    Cyc Wid It
                    Veteran Member
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 4485

                    Off topic is that way ->
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