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  • #16
    paul0660
    In Memoriam
    • Jul 2007
    • 15669

    Originally posted by Beelzy
    Hmmm, I think it was your fault for not slapping that pistol out of his hand while shouting, "watch that muzzle Son!"

    That's my M.O.
    I would have grabbed his hand and the pistol with my left hand while moving to his side, if it got that far. "Clear the weapon please" to the counterman first.
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    • #17
      MAC USMC
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 1020

      The firearms arena is one where not everyone has the experience, training and judgment that is truly necessary. Put another way, this was a LEARNING OPPORTUNITY for the novice holding the gun. The employee should have stopped him and educated him immediately. It did not happen so the education job was yours to carry out - PROMPTLY. No need to be rude or abrasive, but the situation called for control and correction. That individual had no clue he was being an unsafe *** and breaking all gun handling protocols. He remains in the same state of stupidity now.


      Be a good GUN SAFETY EDUCATOR - you could save someone's life or maybe a punch in the chops.

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      • #18
        sniper5
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 723

        OK, not trying to hijack, but gotta gloat a little about my wife. Formerly anti and totally ignorant about firearms, now pretty darn competent, she was showing her lifelong friend (current anti) her revolver and explaining her attraction to shooting when her friend started to turn toward us with finger on trigger to say something. Wifey acted reflexively and moved and pushed me toward the kitchen so a wall would be between us and her friend(cover/concealment) and before I could open my mouth she yelled "GET YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER AND POINT THAT THING SOMEWHERE ELSE!!!!" Her friend, now becoming meeker and complying said "But it's unloaded." Wifey replied "IT DOESN'T MATTER!!!!" Went from Kindergarten teacher to drill sergeant in a millisecond. After that she took a breath and said "OK. . ." and gave a little spiel about basic gun safety. I think her friend was impressed with the focus on safety and left several hours later with the impression that shooters aren't a bunch of wild cowboys. Next time might even bring her along to the range.

        Told her after her friend left she done good and suggested next time she stand close enough to block the barrel with her finger because people without muzzle discipline with instinctively turn toward you with gun in hand when they respond. But other than that she really surprised me in a good way.
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        • #19
          DisgruntledReaper
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 1863

          Originally posted by ghettojet
          No, you wouldn't have.


          I go to valkryie arms on the weekly. Every time I have been handed a gun they have checked it before hand, as well as after I gave it back to them. While I agree with you that what happened was dangerous, I would also like to say that it is not typical of valkryie arms. I enjoy valkryie alot. They are a great shop, with great prices and the only shop where I actually enjoy to talk to the employees. I am not condoning what valkryie arms did(it was wrong in my eyes), I am just stating my experiences with them.
          Dude,you sweep me with a gun and your finger is on the trigger and YOU PULL IT!? We would be having a seriously interesting talk....

          At minimum it would be taken from hime or slapped down.....and I would still biotch out the counterguy..
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          • #20
            Turbinator
            Administrator
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Oct 2005
            • 11934

            Originally posted by Dion
            BTW, I had a total brain fart yesterday and I've been kicking myself and feel horrible for it. A hot shell fell into my shirt yesterday and without thinking I shook my shirt out, live weapon in hand still pointed downrange, but still slightly sideways and down. My reaction was completely inexcusable and stupid on my part. I've never done anything like that before and will never again. Thank God nothing happened. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
            Call me a cowboy, call me unsafe, but I just don't see where the stupid part is in your post above.

            You kept the firearm pointed downrange. Good!

            Was your finger off the trigger?

            I don't see a problem with shaking the brass out while you still maintained control of your firearm safely.

            Turby

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            • #21
              TurboChrisB
              Calguns Addict
              • Mar 2010
              • 5116

              Arrghh, you beat me to it..I agree..where's the foul?


              Originally posted by Turbinator
              Call me a cowboy, call me unsafe, but I just don't see where the stupid part is in your post above.

              You kept the firearm pointed downrange. Good!

              Was your finger off the trigger?

              I don't see a problem with shaking the brass out while you still maintained control of your firearm safely.

              Turby

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              • #22
                Dreaded Claymore
                Veteran Member
                • May 2010
                • 3231

                Originally posted by TurboChrisB
                Arrghh, you beat me to it..I agree..where's the foul?
                Yeah, seriously, where is it?

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                • #23
                  bootless
                  Member
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 204

                  Originally posted by j1133s
                  So next time that 2 steps to the side instead of back?
                  Ding Ding Ding. This what I've done on a couple of occasions and people look at me like I'm crazy or overreacted. I guess I don't mind looking crazy to others.

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                  • #24
                    77bawls
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 1457

                    Not really a near death but it was almost a ND.

                    I was showing my buddy my gun with the mag out, empty chamber. He's like wow it's lighter than I thought. I put the magazine in and said here's what it feels like with a loaded mag. He takes it and the first thing he does is pull the trigger.
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                    If you have a metal box that has "Anthrax" written on the side, are you a terrorist? or just a fan of a great band?
                    "Those who would ban extended magazines, will say that although hundreds of thousands are in circulation and thousands more will surely be sold before a ban is enacted, it will be worth it if it saves just one life. But the other half of that question must be asked, too: Is it worth it if it costs just one life?" Stephen Hunter
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                    • #25
                      locosway
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 11346

                      Originally posted by 77bawls
                      Not really a near death but it was almost a ND.

                      I was showing my buddy my gun with the mag out, empty chamber. He's like wow it's lighter than I thought. I put the magazine in and said here's what it feels like with a loaded mag. He takes it and the first thing he does is pull the trigger.
                      Yeah, I never let people fondle my guns with a magazine in them. I just don't feel comfortable not being at a range or open area.
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                      • #26
                        1919A4
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 634

                        I have to agree on this one. It amazes me of the lack of safety I have seen lately at the ranges and store fronts. I know someone who works over there. I cant wait to give him some sheit the next time I see him.

                        Originally posted by DisgruntledReaper
                        I would have grabbed the gun and punched the fkr ,CLEARED the gun and then ***** out the clerk.....then leave.....glad you are ok...
                        God Bless our Men and Women of the armed forces.
                        Lynch

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                        • #27
                          Turbinator
                          Administrator
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 11934

                          Originally posted by 77bawls
                          Not really a near death but it was almost a ND.

                          I was showing my buddy my gun with the mag out, empty chamber. He's like wow it's lighter than I thought. I put the magazine in and said here's what it feels like with a loaded mag. He takes it and the first thing he does is pull the trigger.
                          Sure, bad on him, but your mistake was letting him handle a firearm with a loaded mag in the same vicinity. Luckily he didn't rack the slide and then pull the trigger.

                          Turby

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                          • #28
                            Dion
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 818

                            Originally posted by Dreaded Claymore
                            Yeah, seriously, where is it?
                            i should've put my gun down. Accidental discharge would've went across the range. I'm over it now, but a mistake that will never happen again.
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