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  • tankerusaf
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 6

    California Resprocity Laws

    Does everyone know how bad the reciprocity laws in California are? California does not respect any other state's CCW permit. Let's get this changed! What must we do to get this changed? I tried contacting my state representative Shannon Grove and state Senator Jean Fuller, but neither of them will contact me back. Do we need to petition? I'll do whatever it takes. Anyone with me?
  • #2
    PsychGuy274
    Veteran Member
    • May 2010
    • 4289

    AFAIK, no states recognize CAs permit and vice versa.

    Welcome to the boards. There's a saying that goes around here that you'll learn soon enough, "Fighting anti-gun laws is like playing chess, not checkers."
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    • #3
      stix213
      AKA: Joe Censored
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Apr 2009
      • 19002

      A reintroduction of the Thune Ammendment is the best route. Word on the street is that it will be attached to must pass legislation sometime next month, so Obama can't veto it without big drama. I'm hoping that the new version allows for use of non-resident out of state permits in CA, as last time that was not the case, but that's unlikely.

      Don't expect our state legislature to pass a CCW reciprocity law. Ain't going to happen.
      Last edited by stix213; 02-17-2011, 5:46 PM.

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      • #4
        ke6guj
        Moderator
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Nov 2003
        • 23725

        Originally posted by PsychGuy274
        AFAIK, no states recognize CAs permit and vice versa.

        http://apps.carryconcealed.net/legal...state-laws.php
        States that Honor California's CCW Permit:
        Alaska, Arizona, California, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Michigan, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont


        State CCW Permits that California Honors:
        California,
        Jack



        Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

        No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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        • #5
          tankerusaf
          Junior Member
          • Feb 2011
          • 6

          "I'm hoping that the new version allows for use of non-resident out of state permits in CA, as last time that was not the case, but that's unlikely."

          Stix213, does this mean it wouldn't apply to us here in California? I have an Arizona CCW and would love to carry my Kimber here in California.

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          • #6
            ke6guj
            Moderator
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Nov 2003
            • 23725

            Originally posted by tankerusaf
            "I'm hoping that the new version allows for use of non-resident out of state permits in CA, as last time that was not the case, but that's unlikely."

            Stix213, does this mean it wouldn't apply to us here in California? I have an Arizona CCW and would love to carry my Kimber here in California.
            right, based on the previous wording of the proposed amendment, CA residents would not be able to carry in CA on an non-resident AZ (or other state) permit. We would need a CA permit to carry in CA. An AZ resident could carry in CA on his resident AZ permit, and person who did not live in CA or AZ could carry in CA on a non-resident AZ permit.
            Jack



            Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

            No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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            • #7
              CaliforniaLiberal
              #1 Bull Goose Loony
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Jan 2008
              • 4690

              Originally posted by tankerusaf
              Does everyone know how bad the reciprocity laws in California are? California does not respect any other state's CCW permit. Let's get this changed! What must we do to get this changed? I tried contacting my state representative Shannon Grove and state Senator Jean Fuller, but neither of them will contact me back. Do we need to petition? I'll do whatever it takes. Anyone with me?

              Welcome to CalGuns Tanker USAF!

              We all want to get this changed. And lots more besides. It's all being taken care of. In the Secret Underground CalGuns Headquarters there is a Master Plan for the reform of California gun law and full restoration of 2nd Amendment Rights. It's all laid out step by step, Shall Issue CCW, Normal Capacity Magazines, the Extinction of the Handgun Roster, it's all there, the whole chess match mapped out. The Anti-Gunners don't have a chance.

              Takes time, patience, volunteers spreading the word and educating the public and some regular donations to the CalGuns Foundation.


              Presently there is the Calguns Foundation Carry License Compliance and Sunshine Initiative




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              • #8
                Untamed1972
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Mar 2009
                • 17579

                I think a bigger issue is the fact that CA is not shall issue.....having residents of other states being able to carry here takes a back seat to the fact that most CA residents can't carry here.
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                • #9
                  robcoe
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 8685

                  States that Honor California's CCW Permit:
                  Alaska, Arizona, California, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Michigan, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont
                  I am halfway surprised that California honors it's own CCW permits.
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                  • #10
                    Hopalong
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 2436

                    Tank, I'm glad you've decided to move to CA.

                    Now if we could get about 20 million antis to move out

                    We might be able to get somewhere.

                    But, you have to build a wall one brick at a time

                    Glad to have you aboard, enjoy the weather.

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                    • #11
                      Interloper
                      Veteran Member
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 2680

                      Reciprocity would be nice but it's not as big of a deal as some other things. Nevada doesn't have reciprocity with any other state, neither does Oregon. But they do issue non resident permits! You aren't going to get one of those in California. That's one of the reasons I'm hesitant to move to Nevada or back to Oregon. While living in CA I can have a resident permit and one for all the states I visit. If I move out I'll never have a CA permit. Frustrating.
                      What we really need is non-resident permits and a Federal preemption along the lines of the "peaceable journey" laws some states have.

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                      • #12
                        Mad Scotsman
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 527

                        Originally posted by PsychGuy274
                        AFAIK, no states recognize CAs permit and vice versa.

                        Welcome to the boards. There's a saying that goes around here that you'll learn soon enough, "Fighting anti-gun laws is like playing chess, not checkers."
                        CA ccw is good in about 12 other states. Utah, Montana, Texas, etc.
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