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  • zoglog
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 1059

    DROS Residency Address Question

    Ok, so i went to PPT something at Ammo Bros last week and my CA drivers license has my old parent's address up in norcal. So they said I need a 2ndary government document proving my address.

    Strangely I've done DROS at straightline and never had any issues with this by using a cable utility bill.

    Since I moved recently neither my car registration nor my license have the correct address on it. I asked if I could use something else like a property tax bill or a copy of my title to the house and they said those don't count as government documentation............

    I found that last part particularly odd.....

    Well either way I have to fulfill this portion on time of pickup, but
    I changed my address for my registration about a week ago on the DMV website, but they said a printout wouldn't work as well and they don't mail you anything... any suggestions?
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    appagohm
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 1123

    go to your local DMV and ask for a paper with your address on it. I did and it worked fine. it's just a dmv paper with watermark and your name and address printed on it.
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    • #3
      zoglog
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2010
      • 1059

      Originally posted by appagohm
      go to your local DMV and ask for a paper with your address on it. I did and it worked fine. it's just a dmv paper with watermark and your name and address printed on it.
      ok, cool thanks. Time to brace for waiting in line for an hour
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      • #4
        jonyg
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 558

        Originally posted by zoglog
        ok, cool thanks. Time to brace for waiting in line for an hour
        An hour is very optimistic of you. =P

        I just spent 2 last week
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        • #5
          zoglog
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2010
          • 1059

          Originally posted by jonyg
          An hour is very optimistic of you. =P

          I just spent 2 last week
          I guess I'll bring a book.........
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          • #6
            PsychGuy274
            Veteran Member
            • May 2010
            • 4289

            Is it for a handgun? Handguns require second proof of address. Long guns do not. That might be why.
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            • #7
              tenpercentfirearms
              Vendor/Retailer
              • Apr 2005
              • 13007

              Originally posted by PsychGuy274
              Is it for a handgun? Handguns require second proof of address. Long guns do not. That might be why.
              If his DL does not match his 4473 address, it doesn't matter if it is a long gun or a handgun, a government issued document matching the 4473 address must be shown.

              If it is a handgun, then anything from the CA DOJ list will suffice, most common being vehicle registration or hard wired utility bill.
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              • #8
                PsychGuy274
                Veteran Member
                • May 2010
                • 4289

                Originally posted by tenpercentfirearms
                If his DL does not match his 4473 address, it doesn't matter if it is a long gun or a handgun, a government issued document matching the 4473 address must be shown.

                If it is a handgun, then anything from the CA DOJ list will suffice, most common being vehicle registration or hard wired utility bill.
                Ah, got it.
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                • #9
                  jtmkinsd
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 2352

                  Originally posted by zoglog
                  ok, cool thanks. Time to brace for waiting in line for an hour
                  Go get a AAA card...They do DMV transactions at their office...I've never waited more than 10 minutes.
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                  • #10
                    shovel88ci
                    Member
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 315

                    When you go to the DMV, ask for a printout of your vehicle registration with your new address on it and get a license change of address card. It's a little brown card the size of a license, that you write your new address on and then they stamp it. Now you have all you need, and time to read volumes a-x of the encyclopedia.

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                    • #11
                      jtmkinsd
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 2352

                      Originally posted by shovel88ci
                      When you go to the DMV, ask for a printout of your vehicle registration with your new address on it and get a license change of address card. It's a little brown card the size of a license, that you write your new address on and then they stamp it. Now you have all you need, and time to read volumes a-x of the encyclopedia.
                      Some FFLs have stopped accepting this because of some conflicting info from ATF as to whether or not the "brown card" is acceptable. I've had a letter pending with ATF since the beginning of December. I think they're racking their brains on how they can legally tell me a government issued document that satisfies all the requirements in the law isn't "good enough".
                      Originally posted by orangeglo
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                      • #12
                        shovel88ci
                        Member
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 315

                        Originally posted by jtmkinsd
                        Some FFLs have stopped accepting this because of some conflicting info from ATF as to whether or not the "brown card" is acceptable. I've had a letter pending with ATF since the beginning of December. I think they're racking their brains on how they can legally tell me a government issued document that satisfies all the requirements in the law isn't "good enough".
                        Well, darn. Go to an ffl thT still accepts it.

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                        • #13
                          zoglog
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 1059

                          Well the gun is already DROS at that location so I don't have much choice.

                          The thing that puzzles me is how they won't accept something like a property tax bill, or title...
                          Either way, looks like I'm in for a wait @ the DMV tomorrow... gonna be pretty upset if after waiting in line they still don't take the temporary registration reprint from the dmv....
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                          • #14
                            tenpercentfirearms
                            Vendor/Retailer
                            • Apr 2005
                            • 13007

                            Originally posted by zoglog
                            Well the gun is already DROS at that location so I don't have much choice.

                            The thing that puzzles me is how they won't accept something like a property tax bill, or title...
                            Either way, looks like I'm in for a wait @ the DMV tomorrow... gonna be pretty upset if after waiting in line they still don't take the temporary registration reprint from the dmv....
                            Take your property tax bill or your title and show them a copy of your 4473 at section 20.b

                            Alternate Documentation (if driver's license or other identification document does not show current residence address)
                            And then show them what is defined as alternate documenation for the instruction on 20.b

                            Here is a copy of the 4473 to check on yourself before you go in.



                            There is no reason to wait in line for the DMV as long as you have a property tax bill with your name and your current address on it. If you really want to get crazy, tell them that since they can't read the instructions on their own 4473s, you want a full refund immediately.

                            Sorry, I can't stand FFLs that don't read the 4473 and make customers jump through extra hopes through their ignorance of their own forms that they fill out on a daily basis.
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                            • #15
                              zoglog
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 1059

                              Originally posted by tenpercentfirearms
                              Take your property tax bill or your title and show them a copy of your 4473 at section 20.b



                              And then show them what is defined as alternate documenation for the instruction on 20.b



                              Here is a copy of the 4473 to check on yourself before you go in.



                              There is no reason to wait in line for the DMV as long as you have a property tax bill with your name and your current address on it. If you really want to get crazy, tell them that since they can't read the instructions on their own 4473s, you want a full refund immediately.

                              Sorry, I can't stand FFLs that don't read the 4473 and make customers jump through extra hopes through their ignorance of their own forms that they fill out on a daily basis.
                              ok thanks for the info, i'll call up and ask.
                              I asked last time about property tax bill and they said "no, it has to be from the government" then I said "errr I'm pretty sure that is from the government" then they said "It doesn't count"

                              Thanks for the help (you saved me at least an hour wait in line today), called in. And they looked into it and said it would be ok. I don't know why they gave me contrary info last time.
                              Last edited by zoglog; 02-18-2011, 10:15 AM.
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