$40.45 Dros Cost

[Riflelover]

I went and did a ppt at a Turners and I was surprised to see what the price they charged me was. It broke down to the typical $35 for the dros plus a $5 handling fee plus that $5 was taxed. This seems kinda strange that they can just tack on the extra fee like. Has anyone else had this happen or know of anywhere else that does it? I've done a couple ppts at other places and this is the first to add any extra charges.

[j1133s]

I went and did a ppt at a Turners and I was surprised to see what the price they charged me was. It broke down to the typical $35 for the dros plus a $5 handling fee plus that $5 was taxed. This seems kinda strange that they can just tack on the extra fee like. Has anyone else had this happen or know of anywhere else that does it? I've done a couple ppts at other places and this is the first to add any extra charges.

Don't people ask for prices first anymore?

I go get oil change and I ask how much it'll cost before getting the oil change.

Seems like that'd be a simple way to avoid being surprised by the cost.

[johnthomas]

I thought DROS was 25 dollars in California. Our local charges 70 dollars PPT, 25 is for the DROS.

[Futurecollector]

See your whats wrong with california, dont you have enough common sense to ask the clerk how much the PPT is going to cost you?

and since you know that the PPT is already $35 why would you pay it?

you should have told them to shove it up there arse and you would only pay $35...

get a clue man....

[Riflelover]

I thought DROS was 25 dollars in California. Our local charges 70 dollars PPT, 25 is for the DROS.

Yeah sorry. Its $25 for the DROS and $10 for the PPT fee.

[Futurecollector]

Don't people ask for prices first anymore?

I go get oil change and I ask how much it'll cost before getting the oil change.

Seems like that'd be a simple way to avoid being surprised by the cost.

ok but seriously, you do know that DORS is limited by the California DOJ right???




oh and, man up you pansy... real men change there own oil...

[Maddog5150]

The clerk made a mistake is all. Politely tell them when you pick up the firearm and they will take care of you. The system has a dros bundle and then there is the ppt sku. When I worked there, once in a great while I would accidentally forget to delete one of the skus in the bundle if we were swamped. Next time calm down and don't be too scared to ask

[rromeo]

For those saying to ask the cost first, you shouldn't have to. PPT cannot be more than $35 total.

[Rob454]

For those saying to ask the cost first, you shouldn't have to. PPT cannot be more than $35 total.

yeah but sometimes the people make mistakes other times its the corporate/owner who changes the prices and they can only do what they are told. I would simply say something right then and there that PPTs are limited to 35$ by the state and that should be the charge.

[rromeo]

I agree with saying something if overcharged, but it's ridiculous that we have to ask someone if they are going to obey the law.

[iareConfusE]

Did they charge you for a lock? I know when I went to do a transfer at Turners, they threw a lock onto my invoice without even telling me, or asking me if I was able to satisfy a safe affidavit form. It's incredibly unprofessional and rude to spend people's money without their permission like that, and it's one of the reasons why I won't buy anything from them. When I told the guy I had a safe and could fill out the affidavit, he got mad at told me that I Should have notified him of that long before the paperwork was in progress...

I digress... Check to see if they charged you for a lock, and not just another handling fee.

[IrishPirate]

For those saying to ask the cost first, you shouldn't have to. PPT cannot be more than $35 total.

FOR DROS!!!! they can charge whatever they want ontop of that to facilitate the transfer, but the breakdown of charges can only show $35 for DROS. As long as it's at least 2 different charges, they can charge you any amount they want.


example: DROS-$35, Storage/Handling - $25, Total - $60 ........ LEGAL!!

remember that DROS is just the cost of running the background check plus a little extra that the DOJ lets the FFL charge. As long as they aren't charging more for the actual DROS, they aren't breaking any laws. I know a place that charges $100 if you order something online and have it shipped to them

[cgseanp1]

FOR DROS!!!! they can charge whatever they want ontop of that to facilitate the transfer, but the breakdown of charges can only show $35 for DROS. As long as it's at least 2 different charges, they can charge you any amount they want.


example: DROS-$35, Storage/Handling - $25, Total - $60 ........ LEGAL!!

remember that DROS is just the cost of running the background check plus a little extra that the DOJ lets the FFL charge. As long as they aren't charging more for the actual DROS, they aren't breaking any laws. I know a place that charges $100 if you order something online and have it shipped to them

This is a completely different thing. And I'm not sure you are correct about your first part, either.

From Gunwiki:
There is a state maximum fee of $35. That's $25 to the state and $10 to the dealer; the dealer may choose not to charge the $10 if desired. Some dealers try to charge more than $35 for a PPT, and are committing a crime in doing so! It's been argued, however, that it is not illegal for a dealer to charge an additional fee for storing the gun until it's picked up, as long as it isn't represented on the receipt as a part of the PPT fee.
[quote=http://law.onecle.com/california/penal/12082.html]The purchaser or transferee or person being loaned the firearm may be required by the dealer to pay a fee not to exceed ten dollars ($10) per firearm, and no other fee may be charged by the dealer for a sale, loan, or transfer of a firearm conducted pursuant to this section, except for the applicable fee that the Department of Justice may charge pursuant to Section 12076. Nothing in these provisions shall prevent a dealer from charging a smaller fee

[Ezekiel2000]

FOR DROS!!!! they can charge whatever they want ontop of that to facilitate the transfer, but the breakdown of charges can only show $35 for DROS. As long as it's at least 2 different charges, they can charge you any amount they want.


example: DROS-$35, Storage/Handling - $25, Total - $60 ........ LEGAL!!

remember that DROS is just the cost of running the background check plus a little extra that the DOJ lets the FFL charge. As long as they aren't charging more for the actual DROS, they aren't breaking any laws. I know a place that charges $100 if you order something online and have it shipped to them

Umm No.

Ordering something from online and having it sent to a dealer is not a PPT and therefore is not the topic of discussion here.

The PPT fee is clearly defined on the CA DOJ FAQ. Note that a PPT is none of the things bolded below...

# What fees can I charge in addition to the DROS?

In addition to the State's $19.00 DROS fee, you must also charge a $1.00 Firearms Safety Testing fee and a $5.00 Safety and Enforcement fee. If the transaction being processed is a dealer sale, consignment return, or return from pawn, you may impose other charges as long as this amount is clearly shown as a "dealer fee" and not misrepresented as a State fee.

(PC sections 12071(b)(11), (12))

[cmichini]

Did they charge you for a lock? I know when I went to do a transfer at Turners, they threw a lock onto my invoice without even telling me, or asking me if I was able to satisfy a safe affidavit form. It's incredibly unprofessional and rude to spend people's money without their permission like that, and it's one of the reasons why I won't buy anything from them. When I told the guy I had a safe and could fill out the affidavit, he got mad at told me that I Should have notified him of that long before the paperwork was in progress...

I digress... Check to see if they charged you for a lock, and not just another handling fee.

My understanding is if it's for a handgun the Fed law allows for the affidavit in lieu of a lock, but CA law does not accept that (for handguns) and says you have to have a CA approved firearm safety device and a receipt (date within 30 days?). Some FFL's will get pissy about what kind of receipt you have (they want it to be from a store vs. buying for an individual party), so it makes sense to see if your FFL is a doosh about the receipt or not.

INAL so the above is my understanding only.