How do we prevent or stop people like Jared Loughner?

[swat]

How do we prevent or stop people like Jared Lougner?

Any Suggestions???

[Nachoman]

You can't stop "crazy".

[sd_shooter]

We should go back to public hangings...

[ocspeedracer]

We should go back to public hangings...

I like that, or just have them shot right away after something like what happened.

[bjl333]

We should go back to public hangings...

Then the crazy people will want to do something so they can have their moment of fame !!!

[Untamed1972]

How do we prevent or stop people like Jared Lougner?

Any Suggestions???

I can think of a few ways:

1) Good sight alignment, sight picture and trigger control.

2) Sometimes there are people around these individuals, friends and family members that get a sense that something is not right with this person they know, but they play it off, diminish it, are in denial about it. It takes a strong person to look at someone they know and say something to them, or if need be other proper authorities and express a concern that this person may be a threat to themselves or others.

The problem is that oftentimes there is little the authorities can do if the person has not made any overt threats or actions yet.

3) It may sound cliche' here on this MB, but respecting citizens' "right to immediate armed personal defense in case of confrontation", which by extention protects others around them, when someone like this goes off, so that the threat can be immediately neutralized.

4) What must be remembered is that this incident is not about guns, it's about mentally ill people. If he did not have a gun it could have just as easily been a car, or baseball bat, or a knife or an other number of readily available tools that he chose to use. You can't legislate a ban on mental illness.

[MSL209]

You stop people like Laughner with responsible armed citizens that can quickly and safely make center mass hits in an emergency.

[AAShooter]

We, as a society, take our personal protection seriously. This is how situations like this get stopped. Because of our relatively safe environment, many people walk around completely oblivious to the fact that there exist crazy/mean/evil people intent on doing harm to others. In most cases, they are fine and luckily avoid problems. However, they remain completely unprepared to recognize threats and respond to them. Further, they have very little situational awareness to even look for them.

As long as the society completely outsources their personal protection to the "men in blue" and don't take steps to be prepared to defend themselves, these situations will continue. The best I can tell, this was no trained gunmen . . . just one that took advantage of the element of surprise on an unsuspecting set of victims.

[incredablehefey]

You cant, that is what everyone needs to come to realize. The media will never admit it, because that is not in there best interest. The politicians will never admit it because it helps them pass laws that otherwise wouldn't.

The sad simple truth is that if a person wants to do harm they will no matter what weapons they have at there disposal. Do you honestly think if someone drove a car at high speed through the same crowd there would have been less fatalities? I dont, in fact I think the tole would have been much worse but it would have gotten less publicity! figure that one out

just my opinion, dont string me up please

[Nachoman]

You stop people like Laughner with responsible armed citizens that can quickly and safely make center mass hits in an emergency.

Actually even that won't stop folks like Laughner, if someone is dedicated enough, there's not much even an armed person can do about it unless they know about it beforehand. Ultimately you need armed or unarmed people willing to step up and stop a threat. Seems like folks in AZ did that, the first people who jumped him were unarmed and some had been hit by the gunfire.

The only way to stop crazy folks lies with their friends and family. They are the only folks who have clues before an incident occurs.

[nick]

We obviously can't 100% prevent it. What we can do is give the public the means to stop it, and to minimize the damage. This will also work towards prevention, as not having a place with guaranteed disarmed potential victims might stop those contemplating a crime who haven't completely abandoned their own life. For the rest, well, getting shot before getting their fame might be a deterrent, too. Not sensationalizing such things would probably do some good, as well, but you can't prevent that any more than you can prevent craziness.

[meaty-btz]

How do you Stop a Crazy with a gun:
2 in the chest, 1 in the head.

There will always be those who do wrong among us, we cannot stop it with laws, but we can with lead.

[joefreas]

Unpreventable. Is that a word? Take a look inside prisons. They are confined and outside items are prohibited from entering but still weapons are constructed and murders occur. If they can't stop murders in prison what makes anyone think they can stop them in public simply by passing laws. Never going to happen. Criminals will always be armed. If he didn't use a gun it would have been a bomb, knife, sword, car, ect..

[ConcernedCitizen]

I'm surprised that the Tucson PD didn't have even one LEO for this event. At the very least, they should have expected a heckler, and justified the presence of a LEO on that basis alone. This certainly would have contained the situation much more quickly.

Can anyone verify that there were no LEOs present?

[CSDGuy]

Unfortunately, we often can't stop people like him before they cause injury and death. To do so, we'd have to suspend critical portions of our civil rights for ALL of us just to catch a few nutcases. That being said, often people that are whack-jobs show signs of it before things go bad, but those signs are often dismissed or ignored and if examined by a psych doc, they're not a danger to themselves or others at that point, so they can't be reported to Law Enforcement as such, to be put on the prohibited person's list. Never mind that people can acquire firearms anyway...

What we need is people willing to be the sheepdog. There were a few that day. We, the people, may not be able to prevent stuff like this from happening, but we can keep the cost in lives and injuries to a minimum by being the sheepdog and being ready to do something to stop the threats when they emerge.