walmart

[sparrow]

just curious if your local walmart sells guns or not. the ones in my area sell ammo but no firearms. every time i ask the clerk he says thier still waiting on DOJ approval. is this state wide or just the store i go to?

[Black Majik]

nope ain't gonna happen either.

[rkt88edmo]

It is CA wide.

[sparrow]

what's the hold up or did they just stop trying in cali, i know walmarts in other states sell'em.

[Charliegone]

Due to some f***d up people in our society wal-mart will probably stop selling guns and ammo in California. The extreme lefties own your rights, don't you know that.

[MinorDMaverick]

You really can't fault people for trying to get the best product at the best price. I pay just under $12 for 100 rounds of 9mm @ Wal-Mart. That same box of ammo will cost me $16 @ the mom and pop's gun store down the street. I don't know if the answer is to support the local stores, but I will continue to buy my products at the lowest possible price.

[icormba]

There are plenty better places than Wal-Mart to do your spendin'. We'll all be enslaved by Wal-Mart one day, no point hastening their world domination. I don't have a Wal-Mart near me that I know of?

Choosing where you spend your money is one small way to affect change/make a difference.

Do you buy your cafe latte' from Starbucks, or the mom-n-pop across the street? Mt. Dew please!

Do you buy your cd's from Best Buy, or spend a little more and buy from the local indie record store. what's a CD? I got all my all time favorites off Napter back when it was free!


Do you get your burritos at Chevy's, or the family run taqueria? Burrito Factory or Senior Taco!

I like choices!

[magsnubby]

Due to some f***d up people in our society wal-mart will probably stop selling guns and ammo in California. The extreme lefties own your rights, don't you know that.

That's not the reason Wal Mart quit selling guns. The were busted by the DOJ (or BATF, i can't remember which) for sloppy record keeping, selling to restricted persons and not adhering to waiting periods.

Personally, i'm glad they got their dumb @$$ busted. We get enough grief from the anti's without having a big corp like Wal Mart proving "How easy it is to get guns".

[1911_sfca]

Keep in mind that earlier this year, Wal-mart paid $14.5 million to settle charges by cal DOJ. They are now free to sell guns again, but have chosen not to (yet?).

More info on settlement

[Charliegone]

Well, maybe thats not the only reason.

AP) Near the end of her short life, Shayla Stewart, a diagnosed manic-depressive and schizophrenic, assaulted police officers and was arrested for attacking a fellow customer at a Wal-Mart store where she had a prescription for anti-psychotic medication.

Given all those signs, her parents say, another Wal-Mart just 7 miles away should have never sold her the shotgun she used to kill herself at age 24 in 2003.

Her mother, Lavern Bracy, is suing the world's biggest store chain for $25 million, saying clerks should have known about her daughter's illness or done more to find out.

The case, filed earlier this month, has reignited a debate over the confidentiality of mental health records and the effectiveness of background checks on would-be buyers of guns.

"We know that if they had so much as said, 'Why do you want this?' we would not be having this conversation because Shayla would have had a meltdown," said her stepfather, Garrett Bracy.

The Bracys said Wal-Mart's gun department could have checked Wal-Mart's own security files or the pharmacy department's prescription records before selling her the weapon.

Wal-Mart spokeswoman Christi Gallagher declined to comment on the lawsuit.

But pharmacy prescription records are confidential under a 1996 federal law, so stores cannot use them when deciding whether to sell a gun.

Also, Wal-Mart did a background check on Stewart, as required under federal law, but through no fault of its own, her name did not show up in the FBI database. The reason: The database contains no mental health records from Texas and 37 other states.

Texas does not submit mental health records because state law deems them confidential, said Paul Mascot, an attorney with the Texas Department of State Health Services. Other states have not computerized their record-keeping systems or do not store them in a central location for use by the FBI.

Federal law prohibits stores from selling guns to people who, like Stewart, have a history of serious mental illness.

Would-be buyers must fill out a form that asks about mental health. On Stewart's form, a box that asked whether she had been involuntarily committed to an institution or declared dangerously mentally ill by a judge was incorrectly marked no. (Her mother's attorneys question whether Stewart filled out the form herself or a clerk did it for her.) Wal-Mart ran a background check anyway, as required by federal law.

Michael Faenza, president and chief executive of the National Mental Health Association, applauds Texas' refusal to share information with the FBI database. He said it would not be fair to violate patients' privacy when there is no data to support claims that mentally ill people are more violent than others.

"The tragedies that families face when people are killed is terrible. And frankly I wish handguns were not so available in this country," he said. "But it's not right, in our minds, to make social policy based on just a few cases."

Garrett Bracy couldn't disagree more.

He and his wife watched his stepdaughter's six-year decline from straight-A student to violent and unpredictable stranger. She was hospitalized five times, twice under court orders. Her longest hospitalization, lasting a month, came in 2002 after she refused to leave her room or take her medication.

The suggestion that Wal-Mart should have checked prescription records infuriates Erich Pratt, a spokesman for the Virginia-based group Gun Owners of America.

"Does that mean mental illness prevents everyone on Prozac from owning a gun?" he said.

Congresswoman Carolyn McCarthy of New York, who ran for office after her husband was killed and son wounded in 1993 by a gunman on a Long Island Rail Road train, wants to strengthen the federal background check system by encouraging states to share mental health records. She has introduced legislation that would give states grants to automate and turn over the information.

She drafted the bill after a priest and a parishioner were shot to death by a schizophrenic man in a New York church in 2002. He, too, should not have been allowed to buy a gun.

"When you see these deaths that could have been prevented it's a shame," McCarthy said.

As the Bracys prepare for another Christmas without their daughter, they are urging lawmakers to support McCarthy's bill and dealers to conduct their own background checks.

"Lavern went to the store the other day to buy over-the-counter headache sinus medication and they limited the amount of sinus medication she could buy at one time," her husband said, his voice trembling with emotion. "But Shayla can walk into a store and buy a gun and they could care less. That's got to change."

[MadMex]

Well, maybe thats not the only reason.

"We know that if they had so much as said, 'Why do you want this?' we would not be having this conversation because Shayla would have had a meltdown," said her stepfather, Garrett Bracy.

The Bracys said Wal-Mart's gun department could have checked Wal-Mart's own security files or the pharmacy department's prescription records before selling her the weapon.

[BigMac]

Wow, what a great idea! I should perform my own background checks

Gun dealer gone PI... hmmm there may be some money in that for me considering whats next door to my shop

[1911_sfca]

Well, maybe thats not the only reason.

AP) Near the end of her short life, Shayla Stewart, a diagnosed manic-depressive and schizophrenic, assaulted police officers and was arrested for attacking a fellow customer at a Wal-Mart store where she had a prescription for anti-psychotic medication.

Yes, unfortunate, just like many incidents are. Because of the law of large numbers, and the fact that WalMart is the world's #1 retailer, they get lots of lawsuits.


Here is an informative article that talks about how WalMart defends itself from the almost 5,000 lawsuits it receives per year - I found it an interesting read.

[C.G.]

Wow, what a great idea! I should perform my own background checks

Gun dealer gone PI... hmmm there may be some money in that for me considering whats next door to my shop

I can just see it now, Big Mac, PI. You would have to trim down to a moustache, I think.

[Mike]

There are plenty better places than Wal-Mart to do your spendin'. We'll all be enslaved by Wal-Mart one day, no point hastening their world domination.

Choosing where you spend your money is one small way to affect change/make a difference. Ok. In terms of wal mart, you ain't going to get enough people to boycott them to make a bit of difference

Do you buy your cafe latte' from Starbucks, or the mom-n-pop across the street? I prefer Mello Yello or Cheerwine, I like my caffeine cold

Do you buy your cd's from Best Buy, or spend a little more and buy from the local indie record store. Don't feel like getting ripped off by the RIAA and music companies

Do you get your burritos at Chevy's, or the family run taqueria?One thing that the Carolina's don't have (much of, at all), is mexican eateries. Lots of BBQ though!

For all the bashing that Wally World gets (and lots of it is deserved), I'd rather make my dollar stretch much further, and I detest paying high union wages. Keep in mind, that goods that come in overseas pays longshoremen wages, OTR truck driver salaries, etc. There's good and bad to both sides, but here, if I so choose, I can get beer, bait, ammo, cigars, and walk out with a rifle and/or shotgun right out the door in one stop