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Arnie's gift for guns program
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It seems to encourage people to think of guns as inherently dangerous, versus thinking about bad people as inherently dangerous.
This is how Arnie was quoted:
Guns are not "on the streets", they are possessed by people. (Well, I can't seem to find any in the street.)"Every time we see a gun disappear, or being surrendered, or taken off the streets, our neighborhoods and families are safer," Schwarzenegger said.
The degree to which our neighborhoods and families become safer as guns are destroyed depends on the people the guns are taken away from - and people who want or need guns to commit crimes are wildly unlikely to hand them in for a $50 Target gift card.
Sure, there are probably a few cases where a gun gets handed in by some 14 year old punk's mom because she found it in his room, or someone hands in Grandpa's guns before crackhead teenager gets ahold of them - but the real effect of these "buybacks" is to reinforce the bull**** "public health" message that treats guns as dangers to be eliminated, not as tools with no inherent moral qualities.
If Arnie really believes what he said, he could pretty easily make California much "safer" by immediately ordering all state law enforcement agencies to melt down their guns - sorry, CHP, state drug cops, etc - but we all know he's not going to do that, because he doesn't really believe that every gun is dangerous. He believes what the rest of the people on Calguns know - that guns are tools for good in the hands of good people, and tools for evil in the hands of evil people.
Too bad he didn't say "Every time we put a gang member in prison, our neighborhoods and families are safer" or "Every time we arm a good person, their neighborhood and family is safer."
A Walmart giftcard would be good for buying ammo . . ."[T]he liberties of the American people [are] dependent upon the ballot-box, the jury-box, and the cartridge-box . . without these no class of people could live and flourish in this country." -- Frederick Douglass (1892)Comment
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From what I understand from one of last years events ( I have relatives in law enforcement), it generally is a dumping point for hot weapons, most of which have serial numbers ground off, unless stated it is up to $150, each type bumps the value 25,50,75 etc. and I'm pretty sure you have to sign for the gift card.Originally posted by mykKestryll is Chuck Norris' Calguns screen name...Originally posted by MQUnlimitedMy dilemma is keep it or sell it...either way, she's pissed...thinking about placing a cape around her neck and yelling "now you're super mad!!!"Comment
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I saw this on the news tonight too. I also heard them say "working or not".
Sounds like a good opportunity to dump some rusted out, broken, POS junk guns. Then take the cards and buy ammo.
Normally I don't like buybacks, but if they'll take non functional guns, that makes a possitive out of a negative situation.-A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.*
*participation may vary by location. Not valid in California.
Originally posted by ar15barrelsAnd yes, this IS gun school.
Welcome to class.Originally posted by bdsmchsThere is life outside of Calguns
Originally posted by IrishPiratestop looking to the internet to tell you everything you should do.....sack up and just do what you want!!!!!Comment
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I believe programs like this one only promote more crime. Punks go out and steel Law abiding peoples guns and trade them in for a profit- No questions asked. It is all so a good opportunity for criminals to get rid of a murder weapon or one used in other types of violent crimes.Comment
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it would be great for someone to set-up a table near by with a blue book of gun values and talk folks out of ditching their guns....
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So, if this is the same government that says a bare receiver counts as a firearm...
We could bend up a bunch of flats for fourteen bucks apiece, then trade them in as assault weapons?Comment
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Lets get bending. The receiver with the SN is what's considered the gun, so I say we give them what they want.Comment
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I am SO tired of these stupid buy-ups. It does NOTHING except spend MY tax dollars on some pointless feel-good nonsense. I'm tired of this bullsh*t.Any opinions expressed in my posts are not necessarily the opinions of any organizations in which I am a member.

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Let's do it. 10 flats@$14 a piece, bent and etched will turn into $1500 for ammo at wally world.
Hell, let's bend as many flats as possible... wipe them out of gift cards."No posts of mine on Calguns are to be construed as
legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer."Comment
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