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  • #16
    iareConfusE
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 4464

    Originally posted by brianm767
    I guess I might be that stupid enough guy,

    I have (well I'll say my son has, he lives in Lodi) an old Jennings J22 that never shoots more than one or two rounds without jamming, I think I originally paid 60 or $70 bucks for it new 20+ years ago, I was all excited thinking I would give it to them for $100 bucks and I take that Hundred and put it down on a Phoenix Arms HP22A, then I saw it was for a gift card from Wallyworld or Target, Darn! but I do need a new car seat for my grandson?
    Well, obviously if you purchased a crappy gun that you can make profit on that wouldn't make you stupid. But I'm sure the people they are targeting are is the people with decked out AR's and modern semi auto pistols.

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    • #17
      blakdawg
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 1503

      Originally posted by coq
      I guess I don't see a problem with this. School me...what am I missing?
      It seems to encourage people to think of guns as inherently dangerous, versus thinking about bad people as inherently dangerous.

      This is how Arnie was quoted:

      "Every time we see a gun disappear, or being surrendered, or taken off the streets, our neighborhoods and families are safer," Schwarzenegger said.
      Guns are not "on the streets", they are possessed by people. (Well, I can't seem to find any in the street.)

      The degree to which our neighborhoods and families become safer as guns are destroyed depends on the people the guns are taken away from - and people who want or need guns to commit crimes are wildly unlikely to hand them in for a $50 Target gift card.

      Sure, there are probably a few cases where a gun gets handed in by some 14 year old punk's mom because she found it in his room, or someone hands in Grandpa's guns before crackhead teenager gets ahold of them - but the real effect of these "buybacks" is to reinforce the bull**** "public health" message that treats guns as dangers to be eliminated, not as tools with no inherent moral qualities.

      If Arnie really believes what he said, he could pretty easily make California much "safer" by immediately ordering all state law enforcement agencies to melt down their guns - sorry, CHP, state drug cops, etc - but we all know he's not going to do that, because he doesn't really believe that every gun is dangerous. He believes what the rest of the people on Calguns know - that guns are tools for good in the hands of good people, and tools for evil in the hands of evil people.

      Too bad he didn't say "Every time we put a gang member in prison, our neighborhoods and families are safer" or "Every time we arm a good person, their neighborhood and family is safer."

      A Walmart giftcard would be good for buying ammo . . .
      "[T]he liberties of the American people [are] dependent upon the ballot-box, the jury-box, and the cartridge-box . . without these no class of people could live and flourish in this country." -- Frederick Douglass (1892)

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      • #18
        Mad Jax
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2010
        • 611

        From what I understand from one of last years events ( I have relatives in law enforcement), it generally is a dumping point for hot weapons, most of which have serial numbers ground off, unless stated it is up to $150, each type bumps the value 25,50,75 etc. and I'm pretty sure you have to sign for the gift card.
        Originally posted by myk
        Kestryll is Chuck Norris' Calguns screen name...
        Originally posted by MQUnlimited
        My dilemma is keep it or sell it...either way, she's pissed...thinking about placing a cape around her neck and yelling "now you're super mad!!!"

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        • #19
          smle-man
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2007
          • 10600

          Funny that Arnold who has been seen more than once shooting trap at Oak Tree gun club and even autographed shooters shotgun stocks with his name is so desiring of others turning in their guns.

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          • #20
            JagerTroop
            Veteran Member
            • Nov 2007
            • 3922

            I saw this on the news tonight too. I also heard them say "working or not".

            Sounds like a good opportunity to dump some rusted out, broken, POS junk guns. Then take the cards and buy ammo.

            Normally I don't like buybacks, but if they'll take non functional guns, that makes a possitive out of a negative situation.
            -A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.*
            *participation may vary by location. Not valid in California.

            Originally posted by ar15barrels
            And yes, this IS gun school.
            Welcome to class.
            Originally posted by bdsmchs
            There is life outside of Calguns
            Originally posted by IrishPirate
            stop looking to the internet to tell you everything you should do.....sack up and just do what you want!!!!!

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            • #21
              Springfield45
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2008
              • 2426

              I believe programs like this one only promote more crime. Punks go out and steel Law abiding peoples guns and trade them in for a profit- No questions asked. It is all so a good opportunity for criminals to get rid of a murder weapon or one used in other types of violent crimes.

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              • #22
                stitchnicklas
                Calguns Addict
                • Feb 2010
                • 7091

                it would be great for someone to set-up a table near by with a blue book of gun values and talk folks out of ditching their guns....

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                • #23
                  Sky_DiveR
                  Veteran Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 3017

                  Maybe a good place to drop off an On-List lower? It's classified as a RAW, right?

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                  • #24
                    Brendan Sullivan
                    Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 255

                    So, if this is the same government that says a bare receiver counts as a firearm...

                    We could bend up a bunch of flats for fourteen bucks apiece, then trade them in as assault weapons?

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                    • #25
                      iareConfusE
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 4464

                      Originally posted by Brendan Sullivan
                      So, if this is the same government that says a bare receiver counts as a firearm...

                      We could bend up a bunch of flats for fourteen bucks apiece, then trade them in as assault weapons?
                      Lets get bending. The receiver with the SN is what's considered the gun, so I say we give them what they want.

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                      • #26
                        jshoebot
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 1857

                        I am SO tired of these stupid buy-ups. It does NOTHING except spend MY tax dollars on some pointless feel-good nonsense. I'm tired of this bullsh*t.
                        Any opinions expressed in my posts are not necessarily the opinions of any organizations in which I am a member.

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                        • #27
                          Ford8N
                          Banned
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 6129

                          Originally posted by Quinc
                          Who in there right mind would trade in a gun that can be sold for 100s+for a gift card of 50-150$?
                          Believe me, there are a thousands of people who are that stupid.

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                          • #28
                            FS00008
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2008
                            • 1975

                            Originally posted by sevensix2x51
                            PAGING PULLNSHOOT---



                            carpool? when's the next one??
                            Nate can't see this forum.

                            He will be informed.
                            "No posts of mine on Calguns are to be construed as
                            legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer."

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                            • #29
                              FS00008
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2008
                              • 1975

                              Originally posted by iareConfusE
                              Lets get bending. The receiver with the SN is what's considered the gun, so I say we give them what they want.
                              Let's do it. 10 flats@$14 a piece, bent and etched will turn into $1500 for ammo at wally world.


                              Hell, let's bend as many flats as possible... wipe them out of gift cards.
                              "No posts of mine on Calguns are to be construed as
                              legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer."

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                              • #30
                                sevensix2x51
                                Veteran Member
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 3835

                                Originally posted by FS00008
                                Nate can't see this forum.

                                He will be informed.
                                Oooh..... yeah, forgot about that. Thanks!

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