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  • thevic
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 1910

    Identifying ar15 upper by markings

    Just wondering what manufacture is the square marking on my noveske upper? I found a small list of mfg by forge markings and a square is "Aluminum Brass". What does that mean? My upper is aluminum brass?

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    Last edited by thevic; 10-26-2010, 2:14 AM.
    Victor M.

    Spartan Precision Rifles 07 FFL/SOT
    Caldwell, ID
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    i1800collect
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 1814

    Brass Aluminum Forging Enterprises' forge mark.

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    • #3
      thevic
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 1910

      Thats what i was looking at, but wasnt sure
      Victor M.

      Spartan Precision Rifles 07 FFL/SOT
      Caldwell, ID

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      • #4
        bjl333
        C3 Contributor
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Dec 2009
        • 7010

        I've read several times that FN upper should have a Cerro Forge "Keyhole" stamp or FM mark


        I don't know if that applies only the newer FN uppers, or even older ones like the pre-AWB you are describing....

        Forging marks/makers.

        A (splintered) = Anchor Harvey Aluminum

        AF = Alcoa Forge

        C AF = Colt Alco Forge

        C MB = Colt / Mueller Brass

        Cardinal (stylized) = Cardinal Forge

        CH = Colt Harvey Aluminum

        CK = Colt / Kaiser Aluminum

        Circle/Crooshairs w/"AR" = ArmaLite

        CM = Colt / Martin Marietta

        D (stylized) = Diemaco

        DK = Diemaco / Kaiser Aluminum

        E = Emco

        EK = EMCO/Kaiser

        E MB = EMCO/Mueller Brass

        F keyhole = FNMI / Cerro Forge

        FA = FNMI / Anchor Harvey

        FK = FNMI / Kaiser Aluminum

        FM = FN/Martin Marietta

        FMB = FNMI / Mueller Brass

        Keyhole = Cerro Forge

        L = Lewis Machine & Tool

        LK = LAR / Kaiser Aluminum

        LM = LAR / Martin Marietta

        M (under diamond) = Mueller Industries

        PA = Capco / Anchor Harvey

        PM = Capco / Martin Marietta

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          i1800collect
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 1814

          AFAIK, the square forge marking is theirs (Brass Aluminum Forging Enterprises).

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          • #6
            thevic
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2010
            • 1910

            Well their site states they make military parts so it seems like they are noveske's upper mfg
            Victor M.

            Spartan Precision Rifles 07 FFL/SOT
            Caldwell, ID

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            • #7
              IGOTDIRT4U
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Oct 2006
              • 10861

              The list of forging markings, this is for uppers only, not barrels, right?

              And where does the marking usually show up?
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              • #8
                CHS
                Moderator Emeritus
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Jan 2008
                • 11338

                That's the mark of the company that forged the upper.

                They did not machine it. They only made the blank that someone else machined.

                Forge marks basically mean nothing.
                Please read the Calguns Wiki
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                • #9
                  IGOTDIRT4U
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 10861

                  Originally posted by bdsmchs
                  That's the mark of the company that forged the upper.

                  They did not machine it. They only made the blank that someone else machined.

                  Forge marks basically mean nothing.
                  Ok, so it has nothing to do with the barrel, right? Do the barrels have a similar marking? I was sold what supposed to be a Colt barrel, and I can't verify that. (and it's nothing you sold to me, heh)
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                  • #10
                    Flintlock Tom
                    Veteran Member
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 3353

                    Okay, generally speaking, how does one identify an AR upper that doesn't appear to have any markings.
                    I just received my new AR upper. I have not gone over it with a bright light and a magnifying glass, but I don't see any markings anywhere. It was sold as a Del-Ton upper from a Del-Ton dealer.
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                    • #11
                      CHS
                      Moderator Emeritus
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 11338

                      Originally posted by IGOTDIRT4U
                      Ok, so it has nothing to do with the barrel, right? Do the barrels have a similar marking? I was sold what supposed to be a Colt barrel, and I can't verify that. (and it's nothing you sold to me, heh)
                      Correct. The forge markings have absolutely nothing to do with the barrels.

                      With that said, Colt barrels, uppers, and carriers are GENERALLY stamped with a "C" somewhere.

                      Originally posted by Flintlock Tom
                      Okay, generally speaking, how does one identify an AR upper that doesn't appear to have any markings.
                      I just received my new AR upper. I have not gone over it with a bright light and a magnifying glass, but I don't see any markings anywhere. It was sold as a Del-Ton upper from a Del-Ton dealer.
                      Del-Ton barrels are usually marked DTI somewhere. Check under the handguards too.

                      As far as identifying an upper with no markings, you usually don't.
                      Please read the Calguns Wiki
                      Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
                      --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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