New flash - Your AR isnt worth what you spent... :)

[DannyInSoCal]

Observation from the "Captain Obvious" side of the tracks...

I'm very active in the Indian Motorcycle and Ducati forums - Busted many knuckles open helping the newbies and oldsters alike - And have noticed a very similar pattern when an owner is trying to sell.

Someone lists: Paid $5,000 last year - New tires $350 - New Rotors $275 - Custom Bars - $250 - Europe only mirrors $150 - Etc...... Asking $5,250.

When it's really worth about $3,750 - And they get insulted with any offers lower than the over-market asking price. HD and Indian owners are even worse due to the extra amount of crap they can bolt on...

Comical.

Just because you spent $800 in extras doesnt make your rife worth $800 more - It might make it sell quicker - Probably because it makes yours a better choice over another one offered at current market pricing without extras.

If someone can buy a brand new AR15 - With a full factory warranty for less than $800 - Guess what...?

Your AR15 might not be worth $1,200 - And the $1,600 you claim to have spent building it has zero impact on the market price. So either accept the lower market determined value - Or keep it. Its iron and money - Nothing personal...

Of course there are differences between a Del-Tron lower and a S&W lower - Thats a given. But that Del-Tron still effects the market...

Anything is only worth what someone else is willing to pay. Your highest offer was $850 - So guess what its worth...? You don't have to sell it - But the market determined the value...

Again - Just my observation. Interesting how different forums can have almost the same "profile personalities". The sarcastic "know-it-alls" - The easy going "laid backs" - The pathetic "posers" - The behind the scenes hard working "grunts"...

And yes - I'm still trying to find a "great" AR15 at "good" money. I'm a very patient man...

Thanx, D

[The Director]

wait - wUt?

[trob]

Observation from the "Captain Obvious" side of the tracks...

I'm very active in the Indian Motorcycle and Ducati forums - Busted many knuckles open helping the newbies and oldsters alike - And have noticed a very similar pattern when an owner is trying to sell.

Someone lists: Paid $5,000 last year - New tires $350 - New Rotors $275 - Custom Bars - $250 - Europe only mirrors $150 - Etc...... Asking $5,250.

When it's really worth about $3,750 - And they get insulted with any offers lower than the over-market asking price. HD and Indian owners are even worse due to the extra amount of crap they can bolt on...

Comical.

That's $1,025.00 in extras that he is selling for $250 only 1 year later..... seems reasonable.

[evidens83]

I see this all the time. And every single time I LOL! If you're selling it over MSRP you had better include a lifetime Front Sight membership with that

[SixPointEight]

That's $1,025.00 in extras that he is selling for $250 only 1 year later..... seems reasonable.

You're assuming the bike held it's full value. If the bikes value dropped to 3,750, then he's asking full price for the add-ons. Not going to happen.

And the MARKET value of what you own isn't determined by what you paid for it. Perhaps this bike was worth 3,750 when he bought it, but he overpaid and gave up 5000 for it. The bike isn't now worth more on the market. Still worth the same 3,750. However the perceived value to the owned is greater.

IMO, if you're asking more than 75% the original price of something, you're asking too much.

[offrdmania]

I sell new 4x4 parts and accessories. The rule of thumb in our industry is that these accessories sell used for 50% of new if in immaculate condition and then go down from there. The market is so flooded that this is all you can usually get.

[ZX-10R]

My AR was worth it but I do not think I will spend money on a rifle like that again. On a bolt action, yes on an AR NO.

[DB2]

Glad to see Calguns has another price setting expert.

All guns are not equal. You can't say someones full tilt Noveske is only worth X, just because you can go buy a new Delton for $800.

Doesn't work, sorry.

[mw20]

AR/bike/car, ect. is worth whatever someone is willing to buy it for. You may not pay $5,250 for it, but if someone else is, it is worth $5,250. Simple law of economics.

I put my AR together for less than $1000, but I see people purchasing similar ready to shoot AR's for $1,200, so I could say that my AR is worth that much, but it's not for sale so it doesn't matter to me.

[SixPointEight]

Glad to see Calguns has another price setting expert.

All guns are not equal. You can't say someones full tilt Noveske is only worth X, just because you can go buy a new Delton for $800.

Doesn't work, sorry.

That's not what he's saying. But the fact that there is an alternative commodity on the market DOES have an effect on the price of the Noveske. It doesn't make the Noveske worth only the $800 that the Delton is, however it does have a lowering effect on the market value of the Noveske rifles.

[freonr22]

Observation from the "Captain Obvious" side of the tracks...

I'm very active in the Indian Motorcycle and Ducati forums -

My friend's dad bought rey sotelos' house in May.... pretty cool

[freonr22]

Glad to see Calguns has another price setting expert.

All guns are not equal. You can't say someones full tilt Noveske is only worth X, just because you can go buy a new Delton for $800.

Doesn't work, sorry.

I think what he's saying is the $1800 or $2200 someone spend on their Noveske, really all people are only gonna pay is $1200-1300

[faterikcartman]

The private sales section of this forum operates in an alternate universe where people will pay more for a used gun than one could buy it for new, fees included. Hence, folks keep asking for prices like this -- because people on this forum will pay it. I understand with off-roster handguns, but on-roster? Anyway, my point is that you may need to check other forums to get real-world pricing.

[r1ghtw1ng]

I buy/sell/trade computer parts on other forums as well, and the depreciation occurs in days/weeks, rather than in months/years. New technology emerges so rapidly and makes your new parts obsolete in a matter of months.

[SgtDinosaur]

I'm not planning on selling any of my Ar's. I'm well aware that if I did I would lose money, but that's moot.