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  • oddjob
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2003
    • 2398

    Ever seen a Collector's Collection?

    Now I have friends who have guns. I have friends who have a collection of guns. But until recently I don't think I've seen a "collector's collection" of guns in person.

    This person has a gun office in his home. Guns on the walls, guns in the corners (multiple Garands!), guns in his closets, guns in his garage and guns in his safes. He has five safes. Two contained rifles, two contained handguns, and the other had older .22 lr's. The guns had tags with serial #'s, date of manufacture, caliber. All his guns were made of wood and steel. No plastic anywhere! My kind of guns. Korean War era was the "newest" stuff he had. He had Trapdoor Springfields, 1941 Johnson, Garands, M1 carbines, 03's and 03A3's, Nambu's, 1911's (and he had 1911's!!), Colts, S&W's, old Win .22lr's rifles & etc.

    He had books and books on guns. He has guns that are in the published collector's books (I saw one). He has a rifle with an approval stamp of "EK" stamped on it. This is for Elmer Keith when Keith worked for an arms company (the name escapes me). He had a Nazi proof stamped Norwegian 1911 (didn't know they existed) that had to be 95% +. He has a 1911 from every US manufacture and the different variations through WW2. He also has a 1911 from every country that produced them from Colt machinery. It was amazing.

    This is a first for me to view a "Collector's Collection" in person.
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    1911su16b870
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Dec 2006
    • 7654

    Yes I feel you...it is truely a blessing to have the opportunity to view a true collection. It is a private museum that you had an opportunity to view, admire and learn from...
    "Bruen, the Bruen opinion, I believe, discarded the intermediate scrutiny test that I also thought was not very useful; and has, instead, replaced it with a text history and tradition test." Judge Benitez 12-12-2022

    NRA Endowment Life Member, CRPA Life Member
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    I instruct it if you shoot it.

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    • #3
      bballwizard05
      Veteran Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 3323

      Jealous over here.

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      • #4
        Saigon1965
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Nov 2003
        • 17278

        Why didn't ya snap some pics -

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        • #5
          bluestaterebel
          Veteran Member
          • Feb 2006
          • 3052

          Originally posted by 11Z50
          Since your myopic view is in concurrence with your cognizant lifespan on this planet, obviously less than 20 years, I will grant you a dispensation.

          Figure that out and exercise your mind.....

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          • #6
            johnthomas
            Calguns Addict
            • Mar 2009
            • 7001

            The quality and quantity of a collection depends on many things, most importantly is money. My collection consists of 2 nagant pistols, 2 Mosin Nagant carbines, 3 91/30's, 3 CZ52's one CZ82 and various 22 rifles. Then I have my modern shotguns and pistols.
            I think we relic collectors look at guns differently than other folks.
            For me, the ingenuity of the builders given the limited numbers of options when building guns, ie, stock material, metallurgy and precise measuring techniques as well as ammunition choices.
            Getting turnkey relics is great, but helping to enhance old guns is and art and skill. I like taking old mosin nagants and makin em purty, lol.
            Maybe your friend gives tours? lol. I could stay in a place like that for days.
            Last edited by johnthomas; 07-24-2010, 6:37 PM.
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            • #7
              CSACANNONEER
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              • Dec 2006
              • 44094

              I got a tour of Evine's house before he moved out of state many years ago. He ran Evine's trapping supplies and had a gunshop in the front two rooms of his house. Every wall in every room was covered with firearms. IIRC, one of his bedroom walls was nothing but Model 12s.
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              • #8
                oddjob
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2003
                • 2398

                If I would have known I may have brought my camera and asked to take pics, but collector's/gun owners can be funny about that kind of stuff. You all know how that can be!! I think gun owners would rather have you take pics of their kids before their guns!!! I would have been there for two days taking pics. Just about each handgun was in its own gun rug. They were stacked on each other in his safe.

                1911su16b870......You hit it! It was a private gun museum. And the best part was he allowed me to handle the guns. I knew he was a serious collector when he pulled the books out and showed me the gun that was in the photos.

                I only generically described the gun collection he had. The walls were covered with WW2 photos (like an autographed photo of Paul Tibbets who flew the Enola Gray). He bought some guns from a Tibbets family member. I only wish I could have visited him longer. Swords were present, assorted bayonets, helmets & etc.

                If you ever get a chance for a private viewing of a "collector" someday......do it!

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                • #9
                  Thefeeder
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 5007

                  Originally posted by johnthomas
                  The quality and quantity of a collection depends on many things, most importantly is money. My collection consists of 2 nagant pistols, 2 Mosin Nagant carbines, 3 91/30's, 3 CZ52's one CZ82 and various 22 rifles. Then I have my modern shotguns and pistols.
                  I think we relic collectors look at guns differently than other folks.
                  For me, the ingenuity of the builders given the limited numbers of options when building guns, ie, stock material, metallurgy and precise measuring techniques as well as ammunition choices.
                  Getting turnkey relics is great, but helping to enhance old guns is and art and skill. I like taking old mosin nagants and makin em purty, lol.
                  Maybe your friend gives tours? lol. I could stay in a place like that for days.
                  Money is not the most important thing. Its starts by thinking like a collector. I started buying 300.00 dollor guns back in the day. Built the collection up from there. Building up doesen't mean buying more guns for say, it means horse trading and searching for better condition pieces or adding a few buck to step to the next level price range.

                  You can start also by buying original, rare configuration WWII guns in the best condition possible. Original is key. There are 600.00 MI Garand and 2200.00 Garands...When a person understands the differance between the two......I'ts just a matter of time before that person will owns a 2200.00 Garand
                  Last edited by Thefeeder; 07-25-2010, 10:52 PM.

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                  • #10
                    bruceflinch
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 40127

                    Been to the NRA Museum in Fairfax, Va.
                    It was pretty cool!!!
                    Actually I only started collecting Milsurps 3 years ago. I think I might own about 24...They're cheaper than guns that will most likely never get the opportunity to kill somebody...

                    I belong to the group that uses firearms, and knows which bathroom to use.

                    Tis better to have Trolled & lost, Than to never have Trolled, at all.

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                    • #11
                      Fjold
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 22997

                      I know a guy who has an underground vault that you can drive into. He is one of the, if not the largest private collector of US military small arms in the world. His place is unbelievable, his display wall of US issue revolvers alone is easily 6 feet tall by 12 feet long.
                      Frank

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                      • #12
                        Tom Slick
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 730

                        If you guys are ever in Morro Bay, stop by Harbor Guns. I think it's just a guy's collection and a place to store it. The owner doesn't talk to you, hardly acknowledges you, certainly doesn't want to sell anything. I don't think there is anything in there newer than 1950 and most is 1800-1920.

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                        • #13
                          cannon
                          In Memoriam
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 8589

                          I have a friend who has been collecting military Colt 45 acp's for decades. Over the years he's added civvy and 1903's.

                          He took 2nd place at the Colt factory gun show 10-15 years ago. He lost out to a Colt SA collector.

                          It is amazing to see tables and tables of Colts including the rarest and finest examples.
                          ^^ Said by some lunatic on the internet

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                          • #14
                            BigDogatPlay
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 7362

                            I had an acquaintance many years ago who actively collect S&W revolvers. Lots and lots of 27's of all different vintage, from Registered Magnum forward. He is who got me into S&W and I've had up to 20 over the years, and own 8 currently.

                            The difference between a collector and me is that all mine are shooters. I don't collect, in the pure sense, to acquire and put away.
                            -- Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun

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                            • #15
                              Nihonto Chicken
                              Member
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 454

                              Not Worth The Effort

                              Originally posted by Tom Slick
                              If you guys are ever in Morro Bay, stop by Harbor Guns. I think it's just a guy's collection and a place to store it. The owner doesn't talk to you, hardly acknowledges you, certainly doesn't want to sell anything.
                              Which is why I never stop by there, having been living on the Central Coast for over thirty years. I don't need my butt kissed, but I don't need attitude, either.
                              "Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ~ C. S. Lewis

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