Would you REALLY fight for your guns?

[midnitereaper]

Blackwater why don't you back the F up for a bit and think a while! If everyone including cops knew the freakin COTUS and UNDERSTOOD what it meant then this board along with the current laws would not be in existence. It is more than obvious that most people these days DON'T know and understand the COTUS anymore. Even my dad (retired cop) and I argue over freedom and the peoples right to own certain weapons.

Are you serious? Let's ignore for a moment the motives behind that movie, being anti-facist but ver pro-socialist, not to mention anti-gun. Do you really think cops don't know about the COTUS? I have this picture of you running out with a copy of the BOR while they are shooting at you. Very funny.

[luvtolean]

Choosing to fight, almost guarantees choosing to die.

Ruby Ridge didn't go down too bad, some of them made it, but Waco didn't go as well.

Most people, as we saw during Katrina, will choose even to directly turn them in, no matter how much they thump their chest on the internet.

[M. Sage]

Blackwater why don't you back the F up for a bit and think a while! If everyone including cops knew the freakin COTUS and UNDERSTOOD what it meant then this board along with the current laws would not be in existence. It is more than obvious that most people these days DON'T know and understand the COTUS anymore. Even my dad (retired cop) and I argue over freedom and the peoples right to own certain weapons.

There are more pro-gun cops than you might realize... You're assuming a rather high level of ignorance on their part. A lot of the older cops, at least, are more knowledgable than you give credit.

[tophatjones]

If I had time, I would completely diassemble every gun I own to make it a nightmare for them...Jk. I wouldn't shoot if my life weren't in danger, but just because I don't shoot doesn't mean I won't fight (legally, or by telling others about the political crimes, writing satire, etc...)

[jumbopanda]

Choosing to fight, almost guarantees choosing to die.

Ruby Ridge didn't go down too bad, some of them made it, but Waco didn't go as well.

Most people, as we saw during Katrina, will choose even to directly turn them in, no matter how much they thump their chest on the internet.

+1000


A one-man armed resistance will not accomplish squat, unless you feel good about murdering one or more LE officers in cold blood and then going down in a hail of gunfire. That would only result in unnecessary death and do nothing to prevent the loss of our rights. You can be sure that someone who shoots police officers, for whatever reason, will be demonized in the media. You will be portrayed as a violent psychopath, and used to strengthen the argument for disarmament.

The government would never respond to these few individuals who choose to fight back by shooting LE. The right way to go about fighting confiscation would be to call the NRA, gather up all your friends, and work together. If you can start up a large amount of civil unrest, and convince the public that their constitutional rights are under fire, then you will have a chance at saving them.


I'd love to be a Rambo-style action hero as much as the next guy, but some of you guys need to grow up and stop fantasizing.

[SemiAutoSam]

We are being shown Ignorance by the cops that arrest those with OLL Rifles.

Its the Ignorant cop that makes us assume that the rest of them do not know the law. This is a position of safety for us to just assume that they haven't been taught this aspect of the law.

Until the Pro Gun cops start wearing a Scarlet letter on their uniform I will assume they are just standard cops and be on the safe side.

There are more pro-gun cops than you might realize... You're assuming a rather high level of ignorance on their part. A lot of the older cops, at least, are more knowledgeable than you give credit.

[Matt C]

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A one-man armed resistance will not accomplish squat, unless you feel good about murdering one or more LE officers in cold blood and then going down in a hail of gunfire. That would only result in unnecessary death and do nothing to prevent the loss of our rights. You can be sure that someone who shoots police officers, for whatever reason, will be demonized in the media. You will be portrayed as a violent psychopath, and used to strengthen the argument for disarmament.
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I think if you read the OP I said all that. The point is, you would let the government take your guns if it came down to it. I'm not saying that's the wrong choice, but there it is.

[jumbopanda]

If the police were at my doorstep, ready to take my gun, I think I would have to let them (and protest/take legislative action later). I already said that I wouldn't shoot them, so besides that option, what else is there? Sit in front of your gun safe and yell, "No! You can't have them!"?

[SemiAutoSam]

Have you ever thought just to not have all of your firearms where they can be accessed by other than yourself ?

I guess not living in a box next to the other guys box within the city does have some rewards. One of those rewards is those that would have a desire to take my weapons would have to figure out where on the property or off they would reside. So in answer I suppose I would just not make my weapons available to a LEO that would desire to relieve me of them.

If the police were at my doorstep, ready to take my gun, I think I would have to let them (and protest/take legislative action later). I already said that I wouldn't shoot them, so besides that option, what else is there? Sit in front of your gun safe and yell, "No! You can't have them!"?

[Dr. Peter Venkman]

I could not shoot the people I volunteer to work with.

But working with them might make me exempt.

I don't know of any local LE that would participate in a ban like that considering most of the LE in my town are big gun guys.

An organized resistance sure would help if push came to shove but in today's day and age I'd expect that such a resistance movement would be labeled as domestic terrorists to the sheeple and would be crushed. Depends on the scenario whether or not I'd shoot.

[AJAX22]

In the scenario given in this thread, I would not fight back. There is a time and place to fight and this is not it. I have given my position several times before, but there would be nothing to be gained by taking out a couple of boots on the ground that came to take the guns. They may get a few guns, but I would live to fight another day and could do much more damage later. They could not hit us all at once so most of us would have warning and would be able to hide our stuff. Even if they were to hit my place today, they would not get much. I have several guns here but others are in a location that they would never connect with me along with most of my hi-caps, all but about 10k rounds of ammo, most of my spare parts, a bunch of reloading equipment, and other tactical gear. You need to fight smart, not react in a rash way.

+1
'sure thing buddy, here ya go, nope nothin else round here, every single one that you know about is here and accounted for'

but I'll be in the hills tomorrow with a few choice handtools, a distain for any remaining legislative inhibitions to the ownership of restricted inanimate objects, and a decidedly unpleasant attitude.

[Bolt2Bounce]

"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say goodbye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling in terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, orwhatever else was at hand.-- The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwith standing all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!"

[Boomer1961]

.....and if LE came to your house and saidl....

GIMME YOUR GUNS!!!!

.....you would pause and just about to say after coughing and clearing your throught.....a.....a.....aaahhemm.....

then your wife would tug on your shirt and say give them those silly things...we don't want no trouble...do we?????...

......and you will say....no honey we do not!!!...I love you.....we do not want trouble.......

then later that night you will get the best blow job from your wife that you ever got...and the only one you got since you were married....then she wants to give you another and you say.....not tonight honey.......save it for tomorrow.....

....and then write to the NRA.....sorry....but wow.....it was really worth it.....

TAKE CARE EVERYONE!

[RANGER295]

good luck throwing rocks at them later....

Hope it works for you.

[AJAX22]

I agree with ranger, how usefull will you be to the cause of freedom when you don't have a secure place to sleep and your family is held hostage?

if you want to do real damage you can't just stand up and waste the two or three guys at your door. its a noble gesture and were I a single guy I'd be sorely tempted, but you can do more with a .22 rifle and a soda bottle in the evenings than you could ever do standing up and having a molon moment.

its that whole 'discression is the better part of vallor' thing