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[bluestaterebel]

IMHO, until a deal is reach and cash/product changes hands, either party can back out.

The "Deal" (Contract) is made when they both agree on item/price..even if no exchange has been made. Technically neither party can back out after a contract is made unless its mutually agreed to by both parties.

[Dr. Peter Venkman]

There's a big difference between somebody flaking and somebody being fleeced. The iTrader tool only has 3 categories of ratings, if a flake is a negative then how do you differentiate the fleecing?

You differentiate by leaving a comment, after leaving negative feedback, as to why the feedback is negative. A contract between the buyer and the seller has been broken in both circumstances. Gunbroker, and more importantly Gunboards, doesn't allow this, so why does Calguns?

People define "flaking" differently. I've seen people here complain about sellers who take another offer for full asking price in the middle of negotiating with someone who wants to buy for less. No deal had been made yet, the guy who made a low ball offer some how feels entitled to the product with his conditions attached. So, who would you consider the "flake" the seller or the low baller? IMHO, until a deal is reach and cash/product changes hands, either party can back out. Of course, I play under my own rules and my word means a lot more than making a couple extra bucks. But, I can't fault anyone for taking a better offer either.

Your scenario is a false analogy. No contract was made since the price was never agreed on. Once a deal is reached and then there is no follow through, it's time for negative feedback. I don't know why Calguns is so eager to protect flakes.

[-hanko]

Why? If someone commits and flakes, it should be negative.

Damn straight...an "I'll take it" should be as good as a written contract, assuming the buyer is good to his word.

If he's not, you're doing fellow Calgunners a disservice by not outing him.

You differentiate by leaving a comment, after leaving negative feedback, as to why the feedback is negative. A contract between the buyer and the seller has been broken in both circumstances. Gunbroker, and more importantly Gunboards, doesn't allow this, so why does Calguns?

Your scenario is a false analogy. No contract was made since the price was never agreed on. Once a deal is reached and then there is no follow through, it's time for negative feedback. I don't know why Calguns is so eager to protect flakes.

Remember Shopkeep??. This board is unusual in its flake protection.

-hanko

[CSACANNONEER]

The "Deal" (Contract) is made when they both agree on item/price..even if no exchange has been made. Technically neither party can back out after a contract is made unless its mutually agreed to by both parties.

Your scenario is a false analogy. No contract was made since the price was never agreed on. Once a deal is reached and then there is no follow through, it's time for negative feedback. I don't know why Calguns is so eager to protect flakes.

I totally agree with both of you in spirit but, an more than one occasion, people have started threads here complaining about the other party of a potential deal. The complaining party usually thinks that both parties have come to an agreement while the other party feels that they are still in the negotiating phase.

Just because a dollar amount has been agreed upon, it does not mean a deal has been made nor does it mean that a contract is in effect. There are many other things which might come into play too. These could include things like the type of payment, agreeing on a location to make the exchange, etc. Haven't you see responses to FS threads that read something like "I'll take it IF or PENDING............." In those cases, the dollar amount has been agreed upon by both parties but, I'd hardly say that both parties have entered into a contract or the deal has been made.

[djleisure]

Posting things in public can work wonders here @ Calguns

Unless you're talking about Lancaster!

[Turbinator]

Remember Shopkeep??. This board is unusual in its flake protection.

How so? He's not here anymore...

Turby