I trader

[todd2968]

I made a deal with another member to buy a pistol and that person gave me several excuses and almost 1 month later here I am. He will not contact me back. What do I do how can i give him a bad rating?

[CSACANNONEER]

It happens to me too. I just ignore it. A deal is not made until cash and goods trade hands. Until then, either party can back out. I'm not saying that it is ethical or good for someone to go back on their word but, it happens and it's not worth crying about. I'm still trying to get ahold of the member here who was going to send me a PAR-1 for $200 plus shipping. He even went as far as talking to my FFL about shipping it to him. Then, he just stopped responding to me. Go figure?

[todd2968]

I guess I'd like to warn my fellow Calgun enthusiasts about this flake

[jbooker9]

Let it go, not worth crying about

[the_natterjack]

I made a deal with another member to buy a pistol and that person gave me several excuses and almost 1 month later here I am. He will not contact me back. What do I do how can i give him a bad rating?

I was advised by a Moderator to give a neutral rating when I received the run around from a seller. Just describe what happened and any attempts at communications you've attempted.

He could be a flake or could be in a hospital somewhere. Just do your duty to others and give a warning that there may be "issues" with this guy.

Brian

[the_natterjack]

It happens to me too. I just ignore it. A deal is not made until cash and goods trade hands. Until then, either party can back out. I'm not saying that it is ethical or good for someone to go back on their word but, it happens and it's not worth crying about. I'm still trying to get ahold of the member here who was going to send me a PAR-1 for $200 plus shipping. He even went as far as talking to my FFL about shipping it to him. Then, he just stopped responding to me. Go figure?

LOL, this the guy in SLO? I was going to buy that rifle be he refused to ship and that is a loooong drive to do twice. He seemed a bit maybe shady. Like he wanted to get me down there and maybe skip the DROS.

If anybody has one I STILL WANT TO BUY A PAR 1 .

Brian

[todd2968]

The seller just contacted me apologized for the no contact lowered price by $20. Color me happy!!!!

[Z ME FLY]

Posting things in public can work wonders here @ Calguns

[jmlivingston]

I was advised by a Moderator to give a neutral rating when I received the run around from a seller. Just describe what happened and any attempts at communications you've attempted.

He could be a flake or could be in a hospital somewhere. Just do your duty to others and give a warning that there may be "issues" with this guy.

Brian

^^^ This. Feedback generally should work this way:

Positive: Deal completed and all's good.
Neutral: Didn't work out, but neither party out money/material.
Negative: Money problems or product not delivered as described.

[orangeusa]

Thanks for clarification. If you mention in a WTS thread (as a potentical buyer) that you're getting the runaround or dude doesn't show up, you CAN be accused of thread crapping.

I don't see it that way, but some sellers do. Especially folks who post on several gun sites (which is fine), and play games w/ pricing (which is not).

Just hate to see a guy who fouls you over by saying - you're 2nd or 3rd, when you clearly were 1st in line (wrt Calguns listing), have 100% ratings..

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[Dr. Peter Venkman]

^^^ This. Feedback generally should work this way:

Positive: Deal completed and all's good.
Neutral: Didn't work out, but neither party out money/material.
Negative: Money problems or product not delivered as described.

Why? If someone commits and flakes, it should be negative.

[ChrisTKHarris]

Why? If someone commits and flakes, it should be negative.

As long as money didn't exchange hands there's really no harm done. CG correspondence via PM or thread posts is similar to a verbal agreement, nothing concrete. People flake all the time when the rubber hits the road and it's time to pay or finalize.

[jmlivingston]

Why? If someone commits and flakes, it should be negative.

There's a big difference between somebody flaking and somebody being fleeced. The iTrader tool only has 3 categories of ratings, if a flake is a negative then how do you differentiate the fleecing?

[bluestaterebel]

Why? If someone commits and flakes, it should be negative.

I agree...A contract is made when the seller offers an item for sale, and then a buyer commits to purchasing for an agreed price. When the deal is not made cause the buyer flakes that is a breach of contract.

Maybe the buyer would have made another deal (contract) but didnt because of this one. there are lots of ways that the sellers flakiness (breach of contract) can negatively affect the buyer

[CSACANNONEER]

Why? If someone commits and flakes, it should be negative.

People define "flaking" differently. I've seen people here complain about sellers who take another offer for full asking price in the middle of negotiating with someone who wants to buy for less. No deal had been made yet, the guy who made a low ball offer some how feels entitled to the product with his conditions attached. So, who would you consider the "flake" the seller or the low baller? IMHO, until a deal is reach and cash/product changes hands, either party can back out. Of course, I play under my own rules and my word means a lot more than making a couple extra bucks. But, I can't fault anyone for taking a better offer either.