Should i get a sigma?

[mikhael]

should i get a sigma? i have been hearing negative stuff about the gun. Is this stuff really true? Any sigma users out there? or any sigma users that own both a glock and sigma?

[Knight]

What will you be using the gun for?

[9mmepiphany]

the last 2 i shot had horrible triggers, i'm amazed anyone could even hit paper with them

[till44]

If you want a super reliable gun for dirt cheap then I'd say get one. The trigger is horrible, they break around 12 pounds, but it is an easy fix. Remove a small trigger spring and polish up the internals and you can get it down to about 6.5-7 pounds. Also make sure it is the newer generation, the older ones do have more problems than the newer ones.

[Cali-Shooter]

I used to own a Sigma (sw9ve). Trigger was horrible, but like till44 suggested, I found a way to reduce it down to like 7-6 lb by removing a spring from the trigger mechanism. The gun was fairly accurate, would eat any ammo you give it (or so I heard), and when you release the slide, it made a satisfying *CLINK* sound. But, I didn't like it personally, because IMO it was butt-ugly, felt too cheap for me, and I just never really loved it like I love my Glocks.

If you don't mind a decent firearm that is a bit on the unoriginal side and don't mind making some trigger modifications (no gunsmithing req'd, just remove the right spring), then it could be for you. I personally think that holding off and spending more on a 'better' handgun is a smarter choice, because getting the right gun means it's for life. The reason I bought that Sigma was because I thought I could go with a cheaper option and have a handgun that I would love, but oh boy was I wrong...

[DNA]

Aside from the heavy trigger, I find no faults with the sigma. It is very much, a better value for your money than a glock if you are looking for a quality firearm for plinking, HD or just cause you have some money burning a hole in your pocket. And I say this owning both Sigma and Glock (19/26). If you like it, why not go for it? For those who have problems hitting targets due to heavy triggers, maybe you should hit the range and practice a little more

Either way, shoot both and buy the one you like.

Dan

[railroader]

I don't own a sigma but I have shot a couple of them. Both of them had heavy triggers but I could hit what I was shooting at. The triggers were kind of like shooting a revolver double action, a long heavy pull. I don't think it would be great for a lot of target shooting but it would be fine for a home defense gun.
If you are looking for something reliable and inexpensive you could also look at the ruger p95. The ruger is priced about the same as the sigma. I have the ruger and it has been problem free. Mark

[DaveFJ80]

When I rented the SW9VE and the Glock 17 (and XD9) one day to test them both out, the Sigma shot fine for me as the trigger wasn't hard or anything... a little long maybe, but still very easy to shoot once the fired the first shot. I was pretty accurate with it as well. For the price, it's a good gun if you're either starting out and you have little to no money to spend on a semi-auto handgun, or if you want something cheap to play with at the range and don't feel like paying a little more for a XD or Glock.

The main thing that turned me off about the Sigma was the craftsmanship of the gun. Just putting it up next to the Glock and XD made it look like a piece of junk in finishing and quality. Just for that alone, it's worth it to spend $100-$200 more on a XD or Glock that you'll appreciate and enjoy more.

[CSACANNONEER]

I have an 11 year old Sigma and a Glock 21. Neither are my go to guns. I prefer single stacks because, I have shorter fingers. That said, both work fine and the fact that I have 3 17 round mags for the Sigma doesn't hurt either. BTW, the Sigma mag followers do break. So, if you get one and are plannning to shoot it often, you might want to keep an extra mag follower or two around.

[Serpentine]

I'd save a little more and get the Glock, even a used one.

I could go into the many reasons one by one, but basically it's the gun everyone tries to copy, but no one has made any polymer frame pistol that is better than the Glock. The XD is close, but then you have the unnecessary grip safety that, under worst case stressful scenario, bad weather, mud, malfunction clearing, etc., can cause problems - you can't rack the slide on the XD without depressing the grip safety.

Plan for the worst case scenario and get the pistol that has proven itself for over 20 years. Buy right the first time.


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[j1133s]

should i get a sigma? i have been hearing negative stuff about the gun. Is this stuff really true? Any sigma users out there? or any sigma users that own both a glock and sigma?

I've never owned one, but I've shot a brand new Sigma 9mm extensively about 4 years ago. I thought it was pretty good, nothing special and nothing negative about it. It was during a SW demo at a local match, and they even supplied the ammo. There was no malfunction during the ~200rnds of fire. Also, another shooter had no issues (we were the only 2 that tried out the Simga).

[yelohamr]

I carry a Sigma .40 and other than a slight adjustment to the rear sight, have not had any problems hitting what I aim at. I don't mind the trigger pull, since I was used to shooting an S&W Model 19 double action.
I look at the so called heavy trigger on the Sigma as a safety feature. There is no safety to take off, so one less thing to do when you have to draw and shoot.
None of the S&W revolvers I have owned or was issued never had a safety.

[bwiese]

S&W Sigmas were Smith's first-gen polymer gun, done under old management. They tangled with Glock in court over some design issues.

As I understand it, the Sigmas were not designed to be "high-lifespan" pistols. They were not designed for daily shooting, etc. - more for folks that needed a low-cost reliable gun for home defense, or as a security guard/armored car guard. The rumor is the design lifespan for these guns was around 5,000 rounds - though they seem to be well-enough designed that they'll last quite a bit longer.

If you're looking at a Sigma, I suggest you look at a new S&W M&P pistol instead - your choise of 9mm, 40/357Sig or 45ACP. They did it right with this gun and have given Glock a run for the money in terms of overall quality/reliability, and a set of ergonomics many prefer over Glock.

[Serpentine]

S&W Sigmas were Smith's first-gen polymer gun, done under old management. They tangled with Glock in court over some design issues.

As I understand it, the Sigmas were not designed to be "high-lifespan" pistols. They were not designed for daily shooting, etc. - more for folks that needed a low-cost reliable gun for home defense, or as a security guard/armored car guard. The rumor is the design lifespan for these guns was around 5,000 rounds - though they seem to be well-enough designed that they'll last quite a bit longer.

If you're looking at a Sigma, I suggest you look at a new S&W M&P pistol instead - your choise of 9mm, 40/357Sig or 45ACP. They did it right with this gun and have given Glock a run for the money in terms of overall quality/reliability, and a set of ergonomics many prefer over Glock.

Though the M&P is highly regarded by the likes of highly respected Larry Vickers, the only thing I don't like is the trigger reset. It's just not as pronounced as the Glock and in advanced training classes, guys have had problems with this. They think the trigger is reset, then go to fire and realize the next shot doesn't go bang.

Glock has answered the whole grip thing with the Gen 4's with selectable grip panels. The two stage steel guide rod is a huge improvement as well on dealing with felt recoil and staying on target.

That said, for the guys in CA that don't like the finger grooves, the Gen 2 Glocks (no finger groves), a quality steel captive guide rod and some Tru-Glo TFO sights is very hard to beat.


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[skanless]

I'd save a little more and get the Glock, even a used one.

I could go into the many reasons one by one, but basically it's the gun everyone tries to copy, but no one has made any polymer frame pistol that is better than the Glock. The XD is close, but then you have the unnecessary grip safety that, under worst case stressful scenario, bad weather, mud, malfunction clearing, etc., can cause probelms - you can't rack the slide on the XD without depressing the grip safety.

Plan for the worst case scenario and get the pistol that has proven itself for over 20 years. Buy right the first time.


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Though the M&P is highly regarded by the likes of highly respected Larry Vickers, the only thing I don't like is the trigger reset. It's just not as pronounced as the Glock and in advanced training classes, guys have had problems with this. They think the trigger is reset, then go to fire and realize the next shot doesn't go bang.

Glock has answered the whole grip thing with the Gen 4's with selectable grip panels. The two stage steel guide rod is a huge improvement as well on dealing with felt recoil and staying on target.

That said, for the guys in CA that don't like the finger groves, the Gen 2 Glocks (no finger groves), a quality steel captive guide rod and some Tru-Glo TFO sights is very hard to beat.


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