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  • #16
    MrPlutonium
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2008
    • 503

    Originally posted by Shoot-it
    try and get one with a adjustable trigger. Good triggers make a huge difference in accuracy of your rifle.
    Howa are ok but come with a heavy trigger pull.

    Savage are nice

    take a look at tikka rifles they are sweet I have one in a 223.
    The howa trigger is adjustable for creep and pull. I have mine set at about 2 1/2 lbs. That's as low as it will go. The only thing one needs to watch out for is if you adjust too low then the safety stops working.

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    • #17
      MrPlutonium
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2008
      • 503

      Whoops double post
      Last edited by MrPlutonium; 03-30-2010, 8:30 AM.

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      • #18
        bobnfloyd
        Member
        • Apr 2008
        • 281

        I would say a Remmy 700 if you are looking to tune the rifle over time. A Tikka is great bang for your buck. Some people like Savage, but I don't know much about them.

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        • #19
          McCrown
          Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 418

          Unless you really just want another gun, which I can understand, your AR can take you out to 400 yds and then some. Maybe put that money into your AR or look at an upper that is more suited for accuracy.

          Now if you are going out to 600+ you might want to start looking at a different caliber.

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          • #20
            professionalcoyotehunter
            Banned
            • Nov 2008
            • 12805

            My browning Varmint Stalker Bull Barrel .223 is about as accurate as they come. With 50gr Accutip sub moa ammo it holds tighter than a frog a-hole.

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            • #21
              Napalm Bulldog
              Veteran Member
              • Jun 2009
              • 4266

              Originally posted by DirtyDave
              Great all around gun, just not that accurate (unless you put on a heavy barrel). For long distance accuracy you are better off with a Bolt action like a Howa, Savage, Rem700 etc
              Accuracy has to do with the twist and what grain .223 your using. Have done alot of research on the subject. GOing to put it to the test with my mini 14. QUote I found in another blog_The twist rate has been different in past years. Ruger has seemed to settle on 1 in 9" now, but in the past they have also been 1 in 12", 1 in 10", 1 in 7" and now 1 in 9".
              The different twists may prefer different weight bullets.
              1 in 12" & 1 in 10" lighter bullets.
              1 in 9" & 1 in 7" heavier bullets.

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              • #22
                khw9mm
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2010
                • 1072

                On my AR, I have a 1/9 twist and an 18 in. barrel. Using PMC 55 grain...is that consider "heavy" or "light"?

                My AR is also set up with a eo 512 and 3x so not exactly suitable for long distance shooting...I supposed I could get a scope for it but then thought wouldn't it be more fun to just get another rifle??
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                • #23
                  Napalm Bulldog
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 4266

                  Originally posted by khw9mm
                  On my AR, I have a 1/9 twist and an 18 in. barrel. Using PMC 55 grain...is that consider "heavy" or "light"?

                  My AR is also set up with a eo 512 and 3x so not exactly suitable for long distance shooting...I supposed I could get a scope for it but then thought wouldn't it be more fun to just get another rifle??
                  From what Ive understood 55 grain would be considered light. Go to the 60's grain and see if you like it.. I dont think its always perfect but do beleave seeing if it improves never hurts.
                  Last edited by Napalm Bulldog; 03-31-2010, 12:12 AM.

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                  • #24
                    DirtyDave
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 2298

                    Originally posted by abulldog4me
                    Accuracy has to do with the twist and what grain .223 your using. Have done alot of research on the subject. GOing to put it to the test with my mini 14. QUote I found in another blog_The twist rate has been different in past years. Ruger has seemed to settle on 1 in 9" now, but in the past they have also been 1 in 12", 1 in 10", 1 in 7" and now 1 in 9".
                    The different twists may prefer different weight bullets.
                    1 in 12" & 1 in 10" lighter bullets.
                    1 in 9" & 1 in 7" heavier bullets.
                    I understand the twist rate and bullet weight need to go hand-in-hand, However the barrel on a mini14 is very thin and will never be an MOA shooter. It was never intended to be an accurate gun, just a solid reliable "ranch rifle". Throw it in the truck and pop a coyote when you come across one type rifle
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                    • #25
                      Napalm Bulldog
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 4266

                      Originally posted by DirtyDave
                      I understand the twist rate and bullet weight need to go hand-in-hand, However the barrel on a mini14 is very thin and will never be an MOA shooter. It was never intended to be an accurate gun, just a solid reliable "ranch rifle". Throw it in the truck and pop a coyote when you come across one type rifle
                      Only reason why I had mentioned the above is I was hearing people complain about not being able to hit a target at a hundred yards with a mini 14. Figured the above might give them some options before abandoning the platform completly. I seen a few vids showing them hitting out past 200 accuratly.NOt much past 200! Their accurate with in their limitations. But sub MOA no. I think you would have to invest a whole lot to get there. If even possible on a mini 14. Thats why agree with your above comment to a degree.
                      Last edited by Napalm Bulldog; 03-31-2010, 12:20 AM.

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                      • #26
                        DirtyDave
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 2298

                        Originally posted by abulldog4me
                        Only reason why I had mentioned the above is I was hearing people complain about not being able to hit a target at a hundred yards with a mini 14. Figured the above might give them some options before abandoning the platform completly. I seen a few vids showing them hitting out past 200 accuratly.NOt much past 200! Their accurate with in their limitations. But sub MOA no. I think you would have to invest a whole lot to get there. If even possible on a mini 14. Thats why agree with your above comment to a degree.
                        Yeah, dont get me wrong mini14's are great guns and for hunting you dont exactly need a tack driver. When hunting MOA= "minute of animal" you are shooting at.
                        I'm a pretty good shot and need to do more ammo testing with my mini14. I shoot 3" groups at 100yds with PMC 55gr FMJ. I am going to try some 75gr HPM and some 60gr v-max and see how they group. I had some 45gr v-max and they were all over the place, about 8" groups at 50yds!!
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                        If I didn't have this gun the King of England could just come in here and start pushing you around. Do you want that, well do ya? - Homer Simpson

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                        • #27
                          Napalm Bulldog
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 4266

                          Originally posted by DirtyDave
                          Yeah, dont get me wrong mini14's are great guns and for hunting you dont exactly need a tack driver. When hunting MOA= "minute of animal" you are shooting at.
                          I'm a pretty good shot and need to do more ammo testing with my mini14. I shoot 3" groups at 100yds with PMC 55gr FMJ. I am going to try some 75gr HPM and some 60gr v-max and see how they group. I had some 45gr v-max and they were all over the place, about 8" groups at 50yds!!
                          Let me know how it goes. Im going to go shooting out on BLM in a few weeks and going to try some 55.grain and 62 or 64. Anything heaveir seems to get pricy!
                          Last edited by Napalm Bulldog; 04-01-2010, 12:49 AM.

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