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  • nicita
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 5

    New Target simulator from iSniper, Inc.

    Please let me know if anyone tried iMthe system? Seems budgeting....
  • #2
    Unfazed
    Member
    • Mar 2006
    • 196

    I toyed around with this at SHOT and immediately ordered one on the spot.

    I have spoken with the owner of iSniper on many occasions and he is definitely a good guy and his software is excellent. Will post detailed reviews after my system arrives.

    Even if you don't want to go for the full system, just the laser device is quite entertaining and useful while practicing your dry fire around the house since you can still see your hits (also hours of entertainment for the dog or cat).
    Last edited by Unfazed; 03-03-2010, 3:26 PM.

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    • #3
      swerv512
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2006
      • 3076

      Seems like a crimson trace or similiar would be just as valuable....

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      • #4
        Sarkoon
        Member
        • Nov 2006
        • 264

        Originally posted by swerv512
        Seems like a crimson trace or similiar would be just as valuable....
        Agreed. Building a system similar to this should be pretty easy actually. Chamber a snap-cap, turn on your laser (crimson trace or otherwise) and then all you need is a video camera and a microphone hooked up to a computer. When the computer microphone hears the click of the hammer fall, it checks the position of the laser on screen and determines if that's a hit or not.

        I could write the code for this in a day and I'm not even a programmer!

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        • #5
          tyrist
          Veteran Member
          • Jun 2007
          • 4564

          It's kind of similar to a LE simulator...except the LE one has 60% recoil with moving targets.

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          • #6
            4thSeal
            Member
            • Aug 2007
            • 409

            sorry but that is a poor training aide ... except for a shot gun or wheel gun ... having to rack your slide everytime you shoot a semi auto is setting you up for failure
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            • #7
              GrizzlyGuy
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              • May 2009
              • 5468

              Originally posted by Sarkoon
              Agreed. Building a system similar to this should be pretty easy actually. Chamber a snap-cap, turn on your laser (crimson trace or otherwise) and then all you need is a video camera and a microphone hooked up to a computer. When the computer microphone hears the click of the hammer fall, it checks the position of the laser on screen and determines if that's a hit or not.

              I could write the code for this in a day and I'm not even a programmer!
              Sounds a bit like Dr. Rockso's home-built system.
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              • #8
                Unfazed
                Member
                • Mar 2006
                • 196

                Originally posted by 4thSeal
                sorry but that is a poor training aide ... except for a shot gun or wheel gun ... having to rack your slide everytime you shoot a semi auto is setting you up for failure
                You dont need to rack the slide when using a DA firearm. The round is placed in the chamber, and then an adapter is secured at the end of the barrel to hold the round in place. The laser is activated by the firing pin striking the primer area on the round. They have adapters that will let you adjust the time the laser is present, either permanently on similar to a laser bore sighter, or a quick pulse which is used with the software.

                Definitely not saying its the best option out there, nor the cheapest, but it does function well.

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                • #9
                  Diabolus
                  Veteran Member
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 4720

                  Glock owners could install a trigger reset kit so you dont have to rack the slide each time.

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                  • #10
                    nicita
                    Junior Member
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 5

                    Only 5 simulators on the market...

                    Originally posted by Sarkoon
                    Agreed. Building a system similar to this should be pretty easy actually. Chamber a snap-cap, turn on your laser (crimson trace or otherwise) and then all you need is a video camera and a microphone hooked up to a computer. When the computer microphone hears the click of the hammer fall, it checks the position of the laser on screen and determines if that's a hit or not.

                    I could write the code for this in a day and I'm not even a programmer!
                    The regular camera won't work with LCD TV. But it is a good idea.
                    Please post the code

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                    • #11
                      Sarkoon
                      Member
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 264

                      Originally posted by nicita
                      The regular camera won't work with LCD TV. But it is a good idea.
                      Please post the code
                      In the video they're using a front-screen projection setup. Regardless of whether they are using an LCD or DLP projector, the solution I proposed would work just fine as the screen would reflect the laser light very brightly - bright enough for any consumer video camera to capture.

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                      • #12
                        Kruzr
                        In Memoriam
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 1751

                        Your laser sighter won't be the same as the one being actuated by the hammer hit. How do you time the Crimson Trace coming on at the exact time you pull the trigger? Without that, using this to see your trigger control wouldn't be possible. You may as well use a laser presentation pointer.

                        BTW, at SHOT, I understood that this will work with any Flash presentation, including flash shooting games.

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                        • #13
                          Sarkoon
                          Member
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 264

                          Originally posted by Kruzr
                          Your laser sighter won't be the same as the one being actuated by the hammer hit. How do you time the Crimson Trace coming on at the exact time you pull the trigger? Without that, using this to see your trigger control wouldn't be possible. You may as well use a laser presentation pointer.

                          BTW, at SHOT, I understood that this will work with any Flash presentation, including flash shooting games.
                          The solution I proposed works with an always-on laser. You simply capture the image from the video camera the moment the hammer falls (trigged by audio-capture), and wherever the laser dot happens to be at that time is where you determine to be the spot that was "hit."

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                          • #14
                            Juice5610
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 1558

                            Originally posted by GrizzlyGuy
                            My thoughts exactly

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                            • #15
                              Kruzr
                              In Memoriam
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 1751

                              Originally posted by Sarkoon
                              The solution I proposed works with an always-on laser. You simply capture the image from the video camera the moment the hammer falls (trigged by audio-capture), and wherever the laser dot happens to be at that time is where you determine to be the spot that was "hit."
                              A laser sight is only zero'd for one distance. You would always have to set the screen to the distance it was zero'd at (with live ammo) for it to give an accurate representation of where the round would hit.

                              This one will always show where regardless of the distance.

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