big 5 ruined my day.

[imported_wallysparx]

so 10 days ago, i finally decided to invest in my first shotgun, a mossberg 500 combo with 28" and 18.5" barrel. naturally, first thing i do after work is head into traffic to pick up my shotgun. i happily walk up to the gun department with my receipt in hand, only to be embarassingly rejected. the worker tells me i can't pick it up until tommorow. i look at my receipt, and lo and behold, it gives me a pickup date of 09/01 (today is 08/31). for the next few minutes i keep making sure i bought it 10 days ago, and my powers of arithmetic tell me that the afternoon of sunday the 21st to the evening of wednesday the 31st is indeed a couple hours over 10 days. then i talk to the manager, who further makes me feel like a moron when he points out to me on the receipt that it states "10 day waiting period begins day after purchase". of course i question why, and he has the audacity to tell me IT'S THE LAW!!! as long as i've known, i've always been able to pick up my guns legally after 10 days to the minute. granted it's only another day of waiting, but i'm sure y'all can understand the feeling of waiting through work all day long in anticipation of bringing home a new toy. shame on me for not fully reading the receipt in the first place, but i'll be damned if i ever purchase from this law-misinterpreting store again.

[stealthmode]

wow another expert in the law. you should explain to him the difference between company policy and the law.

i just picked up my USP exactly 10 days almost to the minute that i finished the dros process last week.

[capitol]

There are a few places that do this. The law requires the minimum of ten, twenty-four hour periods.
So, if you go into Big 5 at 6pm on the 7th of April and return the 17th at 5pm you haven't waited the 10, twenty-four hour periods yet. This eliminates the store from getting into any type of trouble because apparently the high paid clerks aren't capable of explaining the above to a customer. Thus Big 5's store policy of picking up firearms on the 11th day.

btw...the Mossy 500 with both barrels is a great deal assuming you purchased it on sale

[ivanimal]

That stinks. I have always had good experiences with Big-5 but only because I know what I want and get in and out without much assistance. I did however get asked "what do you want a gun for" when I was buying one of my Moisins. I simply told the nice young lady that it was for my mother.

[Blue]

Check your receipt, I ran into your problem a couple of years ago. It used to say on the receipt that either the 10 day wait period started the day after you bought it or you couldn't pick up the gun until the 11th day. I can't remember because I've only bought one gun there

[Librarian]

I simply told the nice young lady that it was for my mother.

You are a good son! (Even if, maybe, she'll have to wait while you zero it and function check it for a few hundred rounds -- wouldn't want Mom to have any problems.)

[Turbinator]

Originally posted by ivanimal:
I simply told the nice young lady that it was for my mother.

Too bad that won't fly today, you'd be denied purchase because you'd essentially have admitted to a straw-man transaction.

Turby

[Ratters]

Traders actually lists the time on the receipt so you can pick it up after a true ten days.

Man, what a stupid law.

[gimmejr]

Its actually 10 starting the minute they put it in the system.

[esskay]

Originally posted by Turbinator:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ivanimal:
I simply told the nice young lady that it was for my mother.

Too bad that won't fly today, you'd be denied purchase because you'd essentially have admitted to a straw-man transaction.

Turby </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

How can it be a straw-man transaction when one person purchases and takes possession of a gun legally, then transfers it legally to someone else who then takes possession of it?

[esskay]

Originally posted by Ratters:
Traders actually lists the time on the receipt so you can pick it up after a true ten days.

Man, what a stupid law.

Turners does this as well. They make it clear by putting the exact date/time after which you may pick it up on their own paperwork.

[ivanimal]

My mom actually own some very nice rifles. She has a 30 carbine that is pristine!!!

I bought the moisin and took it home the same day. This was in a far better time long ago and far away. A ten day wait was what you did for jury duty back then. I think the reaction from the young lady was what I wanted, she just shut up and handed me the box.

I have never heard of an 11 day wait. I would complain and do it to their superiors. The crap will continue if you do nothing.

[Moonclip]

Interesting, I could have sworn Big 5 didn't do this before, maybe it is recent policy or certain stores?

If I can avoid buying guns from Turners I do so because they add a lot of extra BS paperwork to the mandatory California and Fed form and then sometimes whine about the time it take to do it especially on PPT's. I find Turners attitudes on doing the required by law PPT's to be less than courtious.

Gee,not having to print out and sign and date three copies of a non required form might speed things up. I understand they are trying to protect themselves but it's getting out of hand.

Also Turners used to do the 11 day thing but I have heard that the DOJ told them to knock it off, don't know if thats true of if DOJ even cares if a dealer increases the time length. I know DOJ can get real peculiar on dealers who misrepresent PPT times and fees so it could be true.

Anybody know more on why Turners backed off the 11 day thing and I guess if Big 5 11 days really bothers you you could talk to thier corporate about it or to DOJ if need be. Big 5 corporate has given me $25(wow) total in store credit to make up for 2 mistakes that were gun related they have done to me.

[imported_EOD Guy]

Originally posted by Turbinator:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ivanimal:
I simply told the nice young lady that it was for my mother.

Too bad that won't fly today, you'd be denied purchase because you'd essentially have admitted to a straw-man transaction.

Turby </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Purchasing a firearm to give someone as a gift is perfectly legal. It even states that on the instruction sheet for the 4437.

[stillbigmac]

Originally posted by Turbinator:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ivanimal:
I simply told the nice young lady that it was for my mother.

Too bad that won't fly today, you'd be denied purchase because you'd essentially have admitted to a straw-man transaction.

Turby </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nope... for your mother, son , daughter, dad, brother.. a gift is not a straw purchase. If buying a gun as a gift is a straw every dad I sell a rifle or shotgun to, for a son or daughter that just finished hunters safety, would be a felon..

A staw is like this.. two guys come in... one guy is looing at guns.. the other guy does the paperwork... staw. A guy comes in looking at guns.. leaves and his buddy comes in (I have a parking lot camera) and buys it.. thats a staw..

The best ones are the tatted out cons that come in with their cranked out girlfriends..