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  • HKROB
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2006
    • 820

    Weapon permanently inoperable ???

    What does render the weapon permanently inoperable mean ??


    12285(b)(1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), no assault weapon possessed pursuant to this section may be sold or transferred on or after January 1, 1990, to anyone within this state other than to a licensed gun dealer, as defined in subdivision (c) of Section 12290, or as provided in Section 12288. Any person who (A) obtains title to an assault weapon registered under this section or that was possessed pursuant to paragraph (1) of subdivision (f) of Section 12280 by bequest or intestate succession, or (B) lawfully possessed a firearm subsequently declared to be an assault weapon pursuant to Section 12276.5, or subsequently defined as an assault weapon pursuant to Section 12276.1, shall, within 90 days, render the weapon permanently inoperable, sell the weapon to a licensed gun dealer, obtain a permit from the Department of Justice in the same manner as specified in Article 3 (commencing with Section 12230) of Chapter 2, or remove the weapon from this state. A person who lawfully possessed a firearm that was subsequently declared to be an assault weapon pursuant to Section 12276.5 may alternatively register the firearm within 90 days of the declaration issued pursuant to subdivision (f) of Section 12276.5.
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    Conversekidz
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 54

    whatever they deem necessary to make it so that an individual cannot make the gun functional again.

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    • #3
      Rob454
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Feb 2006
      • 11254

      Basically making it so it never is able to be reverted to a firing weapon. Say welding the slide to the frame or welding the barrel to the slide to the hammer.

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      • #4
        Trendkill
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2008
        • 3492

        This tends to work...

        Last edited by Trendkill; 12-01-2009, 8:18 PM.
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        • #5
          Noobert
          Veteran Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 3341

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          • #6
            Hayashi Killian
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2009
            • 617

            Basically anything that prevents the weapon from operating without a whole lot of work. Pinning/blocking the bolt and firing pin, welding a magazine stopper in place, etc.

            Basically, if you can load a round in and it goes "boom", even if it can only do it once, it's still operable. Locking (this means PERMANENTLY locking) the bolt closed, removing the firing pin and sealing the pin seating will satisfy you just fine.
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            • #7
              CHS
              Moderator Emeritus
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Jan 2008
              • 11338

              ATF says that 3 torch cuts that each remove a minimum of 1/4" material is sufficient to permanently de-mill any receiver.
              Please read the Calguns Wiki
              Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
              --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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              • #8
                sv_1
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2008
                • 525

                Originally posted by Trendkill
                That looks like an easy fix

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                • #9
                  CHS
                  Moderator Emeritus
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 11338

                  Originally posted by Trendkill
                  That would definitely still be considered a firearm according to the BATFE.

                  3 torch cuts, each removing AT LEAST 1/4" of material.
                  Please read the Calguns Wiki
                  Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
                  --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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                  • #10
                    joelukehart
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 977

                    Or in the case of aluminum 3 saw or plasma torch cuts. I'm sure that Colt could be fixed with a little JB weld.

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                    • #11
                      Cokebottle
                      Señor Member
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 32373

                      Originally posted by joelukehart
                      Or in the case of aluminum 3 saw or plasma torch cuts.
                      ATF says torch with missing material. Sawcut wouldn't do the job unless maybe it's a dado blade.
                      I'm sure that Colt could be fixed with a little JB weld.
                      Easily... and it would probably work just fine.
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                      • #12
                        EBR Works
                        Vendor/Retailer
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 10492

                        Originally posted by Trendkill

                        This tends to work...



                        ...and here's you on the bottom, Kali DOJ on top. But, you'll kiss and make up later.

                        Last edited by EBR Works; 12-02-2009, 8:01 AM.


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                        • #13
                          kermit315
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 5928

                          Originally posted by Caiman
                          This is right if your destroying a weapon. However to make it inoperable one does not have to destroy it. Even plug welding the barrel would work.. in addition to all the other suggestions.
                          I am going to go with bdsmchs on this one. If its an AR style weapon, and you plug the barrel, all you have to do is switch the upper. As far as other weapons are concerned, the serial numbered part is what is considered the firearm, and thats almost always the reciever, so torching the reciever is probably the only legit way to do it.

                          That being said, if you are torching an AR lower, salvage the other parts first and get an OLL, and rebuild it with a BB.

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                          • #14
                            Vin496
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 8804

                            Originally posted by impactco
                            ...and here's you on the bottom, Kali DOJ on top. But, you'll kiss and make up later.

                            What's up with that dude's leg?
                            I think it can be confirmed that an alien xenomorph is absolutely no match for good ole' Alabama black snake!

                            and

                            If you're in a survival movie and the hot blond twists her ankle and can't walk, you damn well figure a way to carry her. If it's a dude, you shake his hand and say "best of luck".

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                            • #15
                              45DAVID1
                              Banned
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 12145

                              Looks like road rash

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