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Originally posted by unsped
Both of these situations have the same problem. They both lie with the children not being taught the dangers and the child being left with the dangerous object unsupervised.
The government has mandated since 2006 that both, fences with suitable child safety latches surrounding all new pools or homes with knew pools, and a sort of security alarm on all doors facing an area with access to pools. If you have these safety features, zoning and permits aside, you may have a pool.
In the case of firearms, you may not have firearms models XYZ, and no new models of firearms ABC are allowed to be imported bought or sold...
Double Standard? Where is the outrage over the lax pool safety regulations?
How about the Gun vs. Cars debate, or better yet, the Gun vs. Doctor's Poor Handwriting?
I was 14 and legally crossing baker street in costa mesa in front of what is now Mitsuwa, when an elderly woman came to the stop at the light. Except she came to the stop halfway into the crosswalk clipping me in the knee putting me in the hospital.
How many other people do you know who have gotten injured or killed due to a car accident either by their negligence, or more likely someone else's?
How many people die a year due to car accidents caused by negligent drivers? The number is an order of magnitude more than guns. And the injury count is in the 100,000's per year..
And yet it is not the "car's" fault that so many deaths/injuries occur due to an automobile's neglect and misuse. The blame is clearly shifted onto the operator of the vehicle.
But for firearms the blame is placed both on the firearm and the owner. The former in general as talking points and legislation, and the latter only after a specific incident occurs and almost in passing.
What about the fact that a doctor's poor handwriting kills over 7,000 people a year and both poor doctor handwriting and the mistakes of other medical professionals results in the injury of over a million and a half people a year. (There was a recent NYT article on this). Poor handwriting for christ's sake kills 7,000 people a year! Is that not the very definition of gross negligence? It is not the pen the doctor used, or the paper he wrote it on's fault. It is the doctors!
A firearm is a tool. Nothing more, nothing less. The tool was designed from its very inception as a killing device; but a tool is just an inanimate object. Just as a knife is a tool that from its very inception was designed to rend flesh. Its historical use and capacity for violence and death dwarfs that of firearms. (Side note: It is illegal for me to purchase a butcher's knife, place it in a bag and transport it from the store to my vehicle as I am concealing a fixed bladed knife in public...)
Now look at the UK. Now that guns are an incredible rarity, knifings and stabbing are on the rise to the point where they are legislating against knives. Now kitchen knives are going to be banned too? A good Butcher's Knife has more capacity for damage than my kershaw folder. So where does the distinction arise? (This is akin to the AW vs. Hunting Semi-Auto debate).
It is not coincidental that once one efficient tool for violence is stamped out that another springs forth to fill the void. The fact that there is always a portion of a population that is violent and unlawful and that cannot be removed is no new knowledge. Criminal Psychology 101. Removing the tools does not remove or reduce the number of the violent persons in the population. They will simply use the next tool available.
As to what defines a liberal? I'd have to say that a liberal is not necessarily a gun grabber. I don't even think "Liberal" is an accurate description of what the common definition of a liberal is. I think "Socialist" is a more apt description of a true liberal. Of course there are varying degrees of socialism. But many "Liberals" I know are not what I'd call liberals. I'd more describe them as Libertarians or Independents. Heck, one of my friends is a kool-aid drinking democratic, bush hating, america is bad and we are committing all these atrocities. But he always wants to go shooting with me when we go to the gun range.
Gun grabbers are something entirely else together. Without exception gun grabbers are either: 1.) People who wish to take away the ability of others to defend or protect themselves and/or rise up against their controllers. Or 2.) Irrational people who are not educated to firearms and fear what they do not understand and see only the effects of their misuse and not how they were misused, and fail to acknowledge and place blame on the negligence or malice of the perpetrator because it is easier to fear and hate something you do not understand. or combinations of #1 and #2.
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