silencer ?

[jamesob]

what is the legality of making a silencer for my bb gun? at night when shooting long tailed creatures my pump master 760 sounds like a connon.lol

[ke6guj]

not legal since that silencer could possibly be used on a firearm.

You can buy a BB gun that has a permanently attached suppresser because those specific suppressors have been deemed legal since they can't be removed from the BB gun.

[five.five-six]

[jamesob]

^? i was thinking of making one out of 1 liter pepsi bottles. or trying toilet paper or something like that.no way that would be able to hold up to a real firearm or would it?

[ke6guj]

sorry, ATF considers that to be a silencer. In fact, people used to make adapters so that you could screw on the bottle to the end of the firearm, and those were ruled to be silencers as well.

This is what you need, http://www.gamowhisper.com/

[k1dude]

sorry, ATF considers that to be a silencer. In fact, people used to make adapters so that you could screw on the bottle to the end of the firearm, and those were ruled to be silencers as well.

This is what you need, http://www.gamowhisper.com/

I've never heard one actually shot, but I've heard they aren't that quiet.

[jamesob]

I've never heard one actually shot, but I've heard they aren't that quiet.

i youtubed it, they are not a whisper but alot quieter than a rws that i have.

[SJgunguy24]

Your flirting with a major felony. The Whisper's can't be taken off thats the only way those are legit.
The law even says paintball supressers are illegal.

[Jpach]

Airsoft silencers are legal. A lot of them use a sound "absorbing" foam. If they can be used on silencers then I dont see why you cant make one for a BB gun. Or you could buy one and somehow put it on your BB gun.

[Jonathan Doe]

Try 22 short in a 22"+ barrel of a 22LR caliber rifle (bolt or pump action).

[ke6guj]

Airsoft silencers are legal. A lot of them use a sound "absorbing" foam. If they can be used on silencers then I dont see why you cant make one for a BB gun. Or you could buy one and somehow put it on your BB gun.

do you have a ruling that states that they are legal?

I do know that paintball silencers are deemed illegal by BATF, http://www.atf.gov/alcohol/info/revr...ling2005-4.pdf if they can be used to muffle the shot of a firearm at all. I don't see any diffence between a paintball silencer and a airsoft silencer in that manner.

[Jpach]

do you have a ruling that states that they are legal?

I do know that paintball silencers are deemed illegal by BATF, http://www.atf.gov/alcohol/info/revr...ling2005-4.pdf if they can be used to muffle the shot of a firearm at all. I don't see any diffence between a paintball silencer and a airsoft silencer in that manner.

Nope. I do recall reading that this one Mk23 airsoft gun uses a suppressor with plastic baffles, "they" claimed its OK since it will not withstand the pressures created by firearms. There may have been a ruling cited but I really dont remember, it was several years ago.

And there are TONS of airsoft suppressors that are being sold here in the US. TONS. Not saying that makes it legal but it hasnt seemed to have raised any red flags yet.

Perhaps paintball silencers are deemed illegal because they, IIRC, work the same way as regular silencers. Is every paintball silencer illegal or is it the specific design mentioned in that case?

Its strange how the Gamo Whisper is legal even though one can cut the suppressor off of it just as one can take the paintball gun suppressor off of the paintball gun and put it on a firearm.

Ha I guess Europe got one thing right regarding firearm rights. At least they can get suppressors from hardware stores and the like. Such good neighbors

[xxdabroxx]

do you have a ruling that states that they are legal?

I do know that paintball silencers are deemed illegal by BATF, http://www.atf.gov/alcohol/info/revr...ling2005-4.pdf if they can be used to muffle the shot of a firearm at all. I don't see any diffence between a paintball silencer and a airsoft silencer in that manner.

they are only illegal after being removed from the paintball gun. If it is an integral part of the paintball gun they appear to be legal. I would have to assume that the same would go for a pellet gun. If the suppressor is permanently attached such that it could not be removed without rendering the pellet gun inoperable it would be legal. No?

I think it would be even better if it was somehow integral to the design of the barrel. Like the following:



the barrel would be ported and have two bushings (min.) that are permanently affixed to the barrel. Then you could have a threaded tube that fit over it. The threaded tube unscrewed from the barrel is nothing more than a standard pipe. The barrel alone is nothing more than a ported barrel. You would never have constructive possession unless the barrel was not permanently affixed to the paintball gun.

This has been running through my head for a while now. But i don't have the balls or the need to do it.

[Jpach]

do you have a ruling that states that they are legal?

I do know that paintball silencers are deemed illegal by BATF, http://www.atf.gov/alcohol/info/revr...ling2005-4.pdf if they can be used to muffle the shot of a firearm at all. I don't see any diffence between a paintball silencer and a airsoft silencer in that manner.

I just fully read the .pdf and it appears that the specific type of paintball silencer tested IS a silencer only if it is taken off of the gun. And BTW, the silencer likely worked due to its design. It likely allows for the gasses to expand into the chambers and lower the pressure thus reducing the noise.

I wonder if a tube with regular sponge foam will constitute a silencer. If I understand the .pdf correctly, the OP should be able to create a silencer with the foam silencer, or even a plastic baffle silencer and permanently attach it to his bb/pellet gun. I dont see that being any different than the paintball gun with the permanently attached suppressor being legal.

[xxdabroxx]

I just fully read the .pdf and it appears that the specific type of paintball silencer tested IS a silencer only if it is taken off of the gun. And BTW, the silencer likely worked due to its design. It likely allows for the gasses to expand into the chambers and lower the pressure thus reducing the noise.

I wonder if a tube with regular sponge foam will constitute a silencer. If I understand the .pdf correctly, the OP should be able to create a silencer with the foam silencer, or even a plastic baffle silencer and permanently attach it to his bb/pellet gun. I dont see that being any different than the paintball gun with the permanently attached suppressor being legal.

I think yes! I also think it could be made of metal if designed properly.