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  • #31
    Mike's Custom
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2007
    • 872

    Originally posted by Barney Gumble
    +1

    Your FFL should not be charging tax on the transfer of a firearm from another individual (non-retailer).

    There are NO out of state PPTs. ONLY PPTs are not taxable. CA treats firearms like vehicles, you can buy it out of state but when it comes into CA and is DROS'd as a Daler Sale it is a SALE and taxable. As a FFL dealer I will not run any risk for you so you can save the tax. As much as I would LOVE to stick it to Arnie and CA and not collect tax, it is not worth it to me to save you a few bucks. If I am audited and I haven't collected sales tax from you I doubt very seriously you would step up and pay the tax and penalty for me at a future date. Cars and guns are not like buying other goods on the internet.

    I am sorry if this angers you internet firearms buyers but the bottom line is you buy a couple guns a year off the internet while I transfer many. For you it means maybe $100 more or less but to me it means much much more including my business.
    Last edited by Mike's Custom; 10-31-2009, 10:56 AM.
    "Gun control is not about guns, it is about control"

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    http://mikescustomfirearms.com/

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    • #32
      Mike's Custom
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2007
      • 872

      Originally posted by barrykay
      Wrong. The processing FFL can determine a "fair" resale value in three ways.
      (1) Base it on the same already in there store
      (2) Get an average sell on gun broker for like kind.
      (3) Use "Blue Book of Gun Values" to determiner a fair value.

      These are approved by the B.O.E. To add to that, if the B.O.E. audits you and finds a number collected taxes based on a reductions of low sale amount, they in fact will charge the dealer for the balance.
      Firearms, just like vehicles, must have a fair reported value if there is no receipt. The DMV will investigate (not with this economy) if the reported sale price is deemed to low. If you try to report the selling price for a vehicle that is actually worth $25K at $1500 then it will send up red flags at the DMV. If the DMV, and it has, looks at your new vehicle and decides the sale price was under-reported they will access a value and tax you at that rate. Values must be reasonable if not accompanied by a receipt.
      "Gun control is not about guns, it is about control"

      Mike's Custom Firearms 661-834-7836
      http://mikescustomfirearms.com/

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      • #33
        BLC
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2008
        • 1340

        It has never taken my FFL anywhere near an hour to do the paperwork.
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        • #34
          Mike's Custom
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2007
          • 872

          Originally posted by BLC
          It has never taken my FFL anywhere near an hour to do the paperwork.

          You haven't seem everything a FFL has to do. The DROS is only a part of the time it takes to process a firearm in and out of inventory.
          "Gun control is not about guns, it is about control"

          Mike's Custom Firearms 661-834-7836
          http://mikescustomfirearms.com/

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