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I need to do a demonstrative speech for my public speaking class. It has to be aproved by the instructor. I was going to use a cardboard simulated pistol to demonstrate triger locks etc.... I got aproval by campus police. She asked for a letter from campus police. I got it and then she said she needs more, WHAT THE HELL. I was going to do it on hamburgers, but she said that was to easy. Other people are doing how to bake cookies...what the fudge? Well im sticking to my topic, if she wont budge then i guess i fail my class.
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what MORE does she need?Originally posted by SOCMOB -
use a toy gun with an orange tip, go over the 4 rules. It is important that every citizen at least knows how a gun works ... or even as a safety measure how to check if one is unloaded.KevinComment
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Thats my point ripcurlksm, its about safety. It would be a card board gun or orange plastic toy. When she heard the word gun her face looked like i had just ate a piece of fecal matter. I dont know what else she wants.Comment
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Whenever teaching someone or convincing someones wife I say something like "Its important that you at least know how a gun works and how to check to make sure it is safe and unloaded. What if you find a gun? What if your child finds a gun? At least you will have a basic working knowledge of how it works."
I'm 6 for 6 with that.KevinComment
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This is a very common theme that keeps coming up. We keep hearing about people at School's being concerned when guns are mentioned. With all of the gun violence that has been brought on to campuses in the recent past do you really expect to hear a different answer? (even if it is a toy or cardboard) It's too controversial, so be realistic here. It's not important to know how a gun works if you don't like guns or ever want to touch one. I mean, I don't need to know how a sewing machine works (not because I don't like them), but because I don't care about them. If you a gun (not sure how) tell them leave it alone and call the Police. Don't mess with it just because you think you know about it. That is how we add another person to the list of "accidental" shootings, so that is not a good reason in my book. Would you really be able to teach an effective class with a toy or card board example? You may be doing more harm than good.
Stick to cookies, you will have a sweeter time all around!
Last edited by joepamjohn; 10-13-2009, 6:16 PM."You can't handle the truth"Comment
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Be careful bringing any simulated gun onto school property without the Deans permission. Just because your teacher says it's ok doesn't mean they won't try and have you arrested for it.
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True, but the same thing can be said about hamburgers, and sewing machines, and .... cookies."
You figure each student (probably 30+ students) is going to do a "demonstration" on a unique topic the probability that everyone will love (or practice) everything demonstrated, is questionable. Maybe he hates cookies, but he will be forced to sit through a demonstration.
I say that he makes them sit through his.
On a side note to OP: You said that you spoke to the campos police. Are they legit police (with firearms)? Why don't you ask them if they can come to your class. You can go through all the safety procedures without a firearm, show photos, etc. But maybe an officer can bring a unloaded or simulation (training) firearm and he can be your "Vanna White" and display firearm while you describe properties, safety, and handling.
The worst that could happen is that they say no (or tackle you and taser you multiple times until you soil yourself).Last edited by longarmshortlegs; 10-14-2009, 8:24 PM.Comment
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ok, that's a good idea - if you can get the police to come it that'd be cool. and then if any of the class gets unruly about it they can taser *them*.
would want to make sure I knew what the LEO was going to say about the entire subject though, before I put him on the stage...
megan"There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty." - John Adams
"To maintain the ascendancy of the Constitution over the lawmaking majority is the great and essential point on which the success of the system must depend;" - John C Calhoun
"If you don't have a gun, freedom of speech has no power." - Yoshimi IshikawaComment
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Oh? But Ms. White doesn't speak unless spoken to. The LEO would be the equivalent of a hand model displaying a wedding ring. He's the means to acquiring a firearm (or replica/model) and bringing it into the classroom; the source.
He/She might also help gain/retain class attention. OP should ask PD, and more importantly explain very clearly and straight to the point: Class assignment demonstrating 'firearm safety' (or something to that effect). It's the gun that is requested (not the LEO), but it is understood that the limitations make presenting a firearm for demonstration impossible without cooperation. OP would be "honored" to have a fine officer from such a fine department take part in such an honorable service to the community.
The second worst thing that could happen (next to taser) is that he'd end up explaining how to bake cookies.Last edited by longarmshortlegs; 10-14-2009, 9:26 PM.Comment
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Im just going to do bacon cheeseburgers, iv'e had enough of the back and forth. 5-7 min speech, Oh well.Comment
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"There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty." - John Adams
"To maintain the ascendancy of the Constitution over the lawmaking majority is the great and essential point on which the success of the system must depend;" - John C Calhoun
"If you don't have a gun, freedom of speech has no power." - Yoshimi IshikawaComment
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don't roll over....
i'm doing my speech on open carry. my attention getter will make the class shiz their pants. muhaha
(no live demo... campus police and school dean shot that down quickly.... bleh)Originally posted by leelawOriginally posted by SoCalSig1911Originally posted by PrepperGunShopComment
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