Bulletproofing A Self-Business ?

[StoneRoots]

Hello friends. Recently my brothers store was robbed at gunpoint and now he wants to bulletproof part of his store. I just thought where better to gain knowledge on such a subject then the good people at calguns.net. I tried a few google and yahoo searches and just seemed to find alot of bogus 3rd parties trying to sell security doors and what not. Any help and information is appreciated.

Have a great day. -SR

[virulosity]

There is no such thing as bulletproof. There are many things that he could do to create an image to potential criminals that it would be tough to rob though. Giving some details on the kind of business might help.

[audiophil2]

There are kevlar blankets you can buy but you should provide more detail on what you want protected.
A 6'x6' sheet of iii-a will be about $3,000

[tomd1584]

i have worked with a glazing contractor who does bullet-resistant glass/acrylic; simliar to what you see in banks. send me a PM if you want his info.

-Tom

[StoneRoots]

Well I know how expensive security construction can be. Being that we know small amounts of construction, I was hoping maybe there were other members who might know of construction methods that would be relatively cheap and effective. The business started with under 50k capital. So hes not in any shape to invest another 50k into security. Any help and information is appreciated. -SR

[Dr Rockso]

I was hoping maybe there were other members who might know of construction methods that would be relatively cheap and effective.

This guy has an idea

[Scratch705]

what kind of store? cause depending on the type of store, it can be just as easy as a button activated lock on door (jewlery store style) or just getting a convenience store style "secure checkout room" where a gunman can't directly shoot at the clerk once he is under the desk and also the passage of money is done through a two door box so they also can't just stick the gun into a slot.

and i'm sure a sheet of steel plate surrounding the desk area will stop most pistol calibers if you angle them right. just big enough to cover a clerk if you can't afford to buy big sheets.

[thatrogue]

1/2 plate will stop anything a thug come rolling in with

[Sheepdog1968]

How about brick and morter? Might even look classy. I haven't tested it but it would be easy to make a double layer and try it.

[NSR500]

This guy has an idea

Sandbags are actually very good at stopping a lot of ammo, cheaper than kevlar blankets too.

The OP has to be more clear about the level of security and bullet resistance he wants to achieve.

[StoneRoots]

Its a high risk retail store. He wants to put in a smaller version of what some banks have, or a larger version of what some convience stores have (the safety rooms with bullet resistant glass). The landlord has authorized the right for construction and really doesn't seem to care too much as long as his rent check comes in on time.

He wants it to look like this:

I dont think thats anywhere realistic to his budget. But I do have friends who are skilled in construction so id really hate to bring in contractor who will charge 2-3x what the job would cost if we ordered the material and did it ourselfs. He is more concerned with small caliber (handguns). I always took my grandpops advice "Prepare for the worst and hope for the best". I cant see any other situation in which his advice would better apply. So id want something capable of stopping anything put to it, rather it be .22, .44, .500, 5.62, etc...



Thanks again for all your help fellas. Have a great weekend,


SR

[Lancear15]

Cheapest and easiest way would to build cinder block walls(w/ rebar) behind existing walls and pour concrete in them. There are also ballistic composite 4' x 8' sheets that can but put on existing walls, but that's very expensive.

[StoneRoots]

Cheapest and easiest way would to build cinder block walls(w/ rebar) behind existing walls and pour concrete in them. There are also ballistic composite 4' x 8' sheets that can but put on existing walls, but that's very expensive.

Yeah, I looked into those 4x8's and they were in the $4-10k range per sheet. Much more then we are looking to spend. My idea was very similar to yours with building double thick walls with one or two BRG transaction locations in the wall. Cinders and cement is far cheaper the composites we looked into. My friend was also telling me something about these fish tank type enclosures that are supposed to severly reduce the amount of force of a fired shot. At this point im looking at any and all options.

Thanks again. -SR

[Beelzy]

1/4" steel plate.

It will paint nicely too!

[Lancear15]

1/4" steel plate.

It will paint nicely too!

.223 and above will go through 1/4 plate like butter and and the thicker you go the more expensive it gets and difficult to handle.