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**maschronic** · 09-17-2009, 9:05 AM

it looks like 80% built lowers. nope. they are not illegal. as long as you finish the other 20%, it is perfectly legal to own and shoot.

as for the serial number is concerned, it is not needed as long as it is your own. when you sell the lower, a serial number is required.

i'm sure someone else can fill in the rest.

**ke6guj** · 09-17-2009, 9:11 AM

Those are 80% lowers, made by http://www.tacticalmachining.com. They were selling them for $80 each recently. Don't know if they still have any.

here is the letter confirming that it is a non-gun.

Tactical Machining, LLC - Not Found

http://www.tacticalmachining.com/images/80-determination.jpg

Best Prices on 80% lowers and fast shipping! Tactical Machining is the best source for 80 percent lowers, build kits & accessories. Our prices can't be beat.

**chaled** · 09-17-2009, 9:19 AM

Understand completely now. thanks.

**Digital_Boy** · 09-17-2009, 11:46 AM

Out of curiosity, what machining operations, if any, are required to get them usable as a lower receiver?

**ke6guj** · 09-17-2009, 11:52 AM

listed in the determination letter I linked to above.

**maschronic** · 09-17-2009, 11:55 AM

you can purchase this and have it sent to your home without any issues.

**five.five-six** · 09-17-2009, 1:06 PM

where does the trigger go?

**ke6guj** · 09-17-2009, 1:07 PM

Originally posted by wilit

If those are the receivers for sale, then they do not look to be currently in 80% state, but finished receivers which must go through an FFL when transferred. An 80% receiver requires all the holes to be drilled, and in most cases the FCG pocket and mag well to be milled out.

Read the determination letter I linked to above. The maker of those receiver has a non-gun determination on that 80% receiver with those specific holes drilled, and with the mag well cut.

Currently, ATF wants the FCG pocket untouched, and the hammer/trigger pins not drilled to be considered a non-gun.

**ke6guj** · 09-17-2009, 1:09 PM

Originally posted by five.five-six

where does the trigger go?

when you finish milling out the FCG pocket and trigger slot, it goes in the spot it normally does.

**five.five-six** · 09-17-2009, 1:10 PM

I was being rhetorical

**DarkHorse** · 09-17-2009, 2:29 PM

Seems more like sarcasm to me.

Either way...

**swerv512** · 09-17-2009, 3:12 PM

i think i just figured out what's my next project...

**Stormfeather** · 09-17-2009, 11:07 PM

Originally posted by swerv512

i think i just figured out what's my next project...

another AK build?

**m98** · 09-18-2009, 12:06 AM

I'm new to these 80% lowers. Does OLL regs still apply towards a homemade AR reciever?

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