Please explain this to me...

[cineski]

I wonder how much more it costs manufacturers to sell an item in CA compared to other states?

[Mssr. Eleganté]

Some people are lazy or not confident enough in their own skills to install a pop rivet.

And some people value their free time too much to spend 20 minutes messing with a mag conversion to save $12. Reminds me of the joke by comedian Todd Barry about buying a wok to cook at home. "Woks are great. With a wok, you can create mediocre chinese food in your own home, for 50 cents less than having Chinese food delivered."

[SJgunguy24]

And some people value their free time too much to spend 20 minutes messing with a mag conversion to save $12. Reminds me of the joke by comedian Todd Barry about buying a wok to cook at home. "Woks are great. With a wok, you can create mediocre chinese food in your own home, for 50 cents less than having Chinese food delivered."

20 minutes Your kidding right?

Seriously, it takes 2 minutes tops to make a 10 round pmag, most of that is finding the pop rivet gun.

[Rob454]

What gives? Why are CA legal magazine more expensive t.)

Because those guys figure they will sell a ton of 10/30 round mags to Californians for super inflated prices

Thats one scenario

The other is that it actually takes a lot more labor and time to make a 10/30 mag.

[Mssr. Eleganté]

20 minutes Your kidding right?

Seriously, it takes 2 minutes tops to make a 10 round pmag, most of that is finding the pop rivet gun.

There is a hardware store just three blocks from my house. That means six minutes walking there and back. If there is nobody in line at the cash register then I could probably be there and back with a pop rivet gun and pop rivets in my hand in less than ten minutes. So let's say 15 minutes to make a 10 round pmag (yeah, I'm slow with tools). The pop rivet job might not look as nice as what Riflegear is selling, but I made it myself! But that still means I'd be spending 15 minutes (Let's forget the cost of the tool and rivets. I might use them again some time.) to save $12. That works out to $48 per hour. Some people value their time off from work at more than $48 per hour.

Making things yourself or paying professionals to make something for you are both perfectly reasonable ways of getting stuff. Neither way shows laziness, lack of confidence or poor earning power at your day job.

[locosway]

I think it takes into account that you are buying a product to look cool, not for pure function. Why buy a 10/20? Just get a 10 and be done with it. I never understood any of this 10/30 10/20 stuff. UNLESS . . . it's the only way for use your gun i.e. no one makes a 10 rounder for your gun.

Easier to handle when reloading for say a competition.

[One Shot, One Dropped]

Just order the 10/30 PMAGs from MidwestPX.com (it's run by THT (a member who posted in this thread)). He sells them for as low as $16 with everyone after that (second and beyond) for as low as $14.

Oh, and he's quick to ship and easy to deal with!

[Arteel]

Not everyone buys 10/20's or 10/30's just to look cool. I only use 10/10 mags for range use, but I'm stocking up on 10/30's for a future tactical carbine class.

I think it takes into account that you are buying a product to look cool, not for pure function. Why buy a 10/20? Just get a 10 and be done with it. I never understood any of this 10/30 10/20 stuff. UNLESS . . . it's the only way for use your gun i.e. no one makes a 10 rounder for your gun.

[SJgunguy24]

There is a hardware store just three blocks from my house. That means six minutes walking there and back. If there is nobody in line at the cash register then I could probably be there and back with a pop rivet gun and pop rivets in my hand in less than ten minutes. So let's say 15 minutes to make a 10 round pmag (yeah, I'm slow with tools). The pop rivet job might not look as nice as what Riflegear is selling, but I made it myself! But that still means I'd be spending 15 minutes (Let's forget the cost of the tool and rivets. I might use them again some time.) to save $12. That works out to $48 per hour. Some people value their time off from work at more than $48 per hour.

Making things yourself or paying professionals to make something for you are both perfectly reasonable ways of getting stuff. Neither way shows laziness, lack of confidence or poor earning power at your day job.

Poor earnings at my day job? What job, I got laid off a month ago.

My point is too many people either aren't willing to try or too lazy to do anything for themselves. How many threads do you read the start out "how are hi-caps legal?" All it takes is a simple search. A little work on the part of person asking the question won't hurt them.
I understand some people don't feel like doing things for themselves and have the means to pay somebody else. Good for them, me I want to know how everything works. If it breaks i'll fix it. If I need to make 10/30's. I'm not gonna stand around and wait for the mail to show up, i'll make the thing and get to work.

BTW, riflegear epoxies thier p mags. No rivet needed, but the mag is screwed for good.

[Quiet]

BTW, riflegear epoxies thier p mags. No rivet needed, but the mag is screwed for good.

How is it screwed for good? Since, it still works as a 10 round magazine.
It's being marketed/sold as a 10 round mag and it works as a 10 round mag, so how is it screwed?
How they make their 10/20 and 10/30 are done in a way, so that is in compliance with the law.

Penal Code 12020
(c)(25) As used in this section, "large-capacity magazine" means any ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds, but shall not be construed to include any of the following:
(A) A feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds.
(B) A .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device.
(C) A tubular magazine that is contained in a lever-action firearm.

[Noobert]

some people don't know that they can make their own 10/20, so they profit off of it?

[Bowser]

The real way to mod the pmag is to install the mag block and then epoxy the floorplate. Riflegear I believes also then rivets the floorplate too.

[shark92651]

Just to clarify, RifleGear used to epoxy the floorplates of PMags, but we quit using that method because the epoxy just won't bond to the Magpul plastic very well (superglue DOES however, but that can be messy and tedious). Now we drill a blind hole through the floorplate, mag body, and into the locking plate and secure it with a roll pin. This makes for a very clean modification without a noticeable rivet on the exterior and is "permanent" enough for our comfort level.