WTF!...ASR Is recording your driver?s license number???

[scamp62]

I asked for the purpose of that, and all I got was it was the new rule??? Does anybody have any Insight on this??

[The Gleam]

I asked for the purpose of that, and all I got was it was the new rule??? Does anybody have any incite on this??

Was it in conjunction with something else? Not that I can think of any valid reason, just trying to see if it was paired with a greater purpose other than just their curiosity or 'tracking'.

Such as, using a credit-card?
Signing up for a membership?
Using their PCV target frames and/or 'rental' of something?
Getting some kind of discount?
Age verification of over 21?
Buying ammo?

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[XDJYo]

I asked for the purpose of that, and all I got was it was the new rule??? Does anybody have any Insite on this??

I wish I had insight on what in the world you're talking about.

[scamp62]

"Was it in conjunction with something else?" nope just range and target, no rentals, or ammo purchases??

[S.A.]

Angeles Shooting Range?

[dobek]

What is ASR?

If it's a gunshop - they can say they are limited access to those under 18 like websites have to -

It could be to discourage ATF agents - they probably don't want their personal info scanned

I have talked with a CCW instructor that isn't allowing anyone to take a renewal class without seeing their current CCW to discourage agents trying to audit class for any "gotcha" - he didn't say what he was doing for initial class.

Steve

[nedro]

Simple. Don't go there.

[Zenderfall]

Just went there a few days ago (if ASR stands for Angeles Shooting Ranges) and Michelle didn’t ask me for an ID, she never has unless….

My guess is you were buying ammo-they have to do an ID check just like any gun store selling ammo.

Or maybe, just maybe you were doing their new online waiver forms (which started a few months ago). That system doesn’t work well and I still do the paper waivers.

[n8vrmind]

Considering other shooting ranges will actually hold on your DL and return it to you after checkout, this really isn't a big deal. You are already providing your address and phone # on your ASR waiver form

[smoothy8500]

Drama…..yeah if it scares you then stay away.

[scamp62]

yes, Angeles Shooting Range, and no on the ammo purchase or rental.

[Dan_Eastvale]

Like some liquor stores in CA and all state liquor stores here.

They have to in case they have to show a record of ALL their sales to prove they didn't sell, even once, to underaged.

[Barang]

I asked for the purpose of that, and all I got was it was the new rule??? Does anybody have any Insight on this??

new rule by them or state?

[The Gleam]

Like some liquor stores in CA and all state liquor stores here.

They have to in case they have to show a record of ALL their sales to prove they didn't sell, even once, to underaged.

Nonsense.

If I buy liquor at a liquor store, even a grocery store, nobody requires nor logs my driver's license number. Ever. If I go into a bar or restaurant, same thing.

They may check a person's ID for a date on age, but nobody is logging/scanning my driver's license for recording the number to match a sale, or be sure I wasn't sold liquor illegally.

And what if I'm not buying alcohol in those places at all, but something else? A soda? Food only? Of course they don't log a drivers license for 'ALL' sales.

Nor should ASR, unless it were by law or for points I noted above.

It's purely FUD, and we call it out FUD when other gun industry dregs do it, like Turdners.

Nor do I see questioning the purpose as 'drama' or simply just not going there as the answer. It should be questioned as to the purpose. Nobody logs my driver's license number to set foot on a golf-course, to go surfing, at batting cages, at a gym, to go skiing at a resort, nor many other shooting ranges - or a host of other facilities and activities.

Dismissing the question is just another sign that Californians have been so indoctrinated by the State to flinch, they suffer Stockholm syndrome what with all the registration to buy guns or ammo, fingerprinting, multiple forms of documenting ID and residency, tests, waiting periods, purchasing limits, bans, restrictions - they've come to support such nonsense as a 'good thing' - hell, I wouldn't be surprised that if ASR started requiring fingerprints or a LiveScan to shoot there, many CA gun owners would just simply go along with it and vex anyone that questions it.

A majority of ranges do NOT do this, and certainly none that I've ever been to outside of California in AZ, NV, TX, FL, WY, WV, PA, OH, and TN.

But suddenly because it's ASR, brandishing FUD is OK.

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[n8vrmind]

OakTree Gun Club and Smokin' Barrels are examples of ranges that will hold on to the customer's DL. Anyhow, if you don't like ASR's business practices then go shoot elsewhere.