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  • #31
    97F1504RAD
    Calguns Addict
    • Dec 2008
    • 6318

    Originally posted by L84CABO
    My bet is that it is simple decorum and etiquette. Benitez obviously knows the 9th is corrupt AF. But to a large extent, that is above his pay grade. It is very customary in cases to grant stays when asked and/or when they know there is going to be an appeal.

    And I get it...with the corruption of the 9th one can easily make the case that we owe them nothing and Benitez should not grant the stay. But that just sends the whole process into further decay IMO. If one side begins not granting stays then the other side will follow. And there will be future cases that don't go our way and we will want a stay to give time for our side to appeal. Not granting stays can easily work against us in the future.

    This is all just a guess.
    Well it?s a good guess for sure.

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    • #32
      Zenderfall
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2017
      • 600

      Originally posted by Featureless
      I can't read thru all that ****. How does the court define an "assault weapon"?
      I read it through, and from what I understand, it's not the court that defines an "assault weapon". The court is telling CA that CA's definition of "assault weapon" is a meaningless, made up, and unconstitutional, which many on this forum probably agree. The court basically says that the assault weapon definition is based off of looks, and that other featureless semi-auto rifles, and non-threaded barrel pistols are ok but just because a pistol has a threaded barrel on it or a semi-auto rifle has a pistol grip, makes it an assault weapon-does not make a spec of sense.
      Last edited by Zenderfall; 10-20-2023, 11:24 AM.
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      • #33
        Epaphroditus
        Veteran Member
        • Sep 2013
        • 4888

        "Go ahead Bonta and appeal all the way to SCOTUS".

        Instead of just taking a loss and overturning CA law the appeal will extend the loss to all the states under 9th circuit - which will make its usual goofball logic resulting in an appeal to SCOTUS - then there will be a nation wide overturn of many states bans.

        Bonta's arrogance will result in a nation wide abolition of all AWB.

        That's worth the aggravation of the 9th circuit's shenanigans.
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        • #34
          DaveInOroValley
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          • Jan 2010
          • 8967

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          • #35
            Angrysnarf
            Veteran Member
            • Oct 2015
            • 2860

            Originally posted by Epaphroditus
            "Go ahead Bonta and appeal all the way to SCOTUS".

            Instead of just taking a loss and overturning CA law the appeal will extend the loss to all the states under 9th circuit - which will make its usual goofball logic resulting in an appeal to SCOTUS - then there will be a nation wide overturn of many states bans.

            Bonta's arrogance will result in a nation wide abolition of all AWB.

            That's worth the aggravation of the 9th circuit's shenanigans.

            Perhaps that benetiz goal

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            • #36
              MajorSideburns
              Senior Member
              • May 2013
              • 1730

              Originally posted by Epaphroditus
              "Go ahead Bonta and appeal all the way to SCOTUS".

              Instead of just taking a loss and overturning CA law the appeal will extend the loss to all the states under 9th circuit - which will make its usual goofball logic resulting in an appeal to SCOTUS - then there will be a nation wide overturn of many states bans.

              Bonta's arrogance will result in a nation wide abolition of all AWB.

              That's worth the aggravation of the 9th circuit's shenanigans.
              They know what he's trying to do, they just don't care because they also know they will replace SCOTUS by that point.

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              • #37
                BigPimping
                CGN Contributor
                • Feb 2010
                • 21460

                It?s high time for mass disobedience. I can?t imagine they could even put all of us in jail or take us to court.
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                • #38
                  MJB
                  CGSSA Associate
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 5925

                  Is this going down the same road as the Mag ban?
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                  • #39
                    bohoki
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                    • Jan 2006
                    • 20825

                    i quote from 1776

                    without those rights is like calling an ox a bull. He's thankful for the honor, but he'd much rather have restored what's rightfully his.

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                    • #40
                      97F1504RAD
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 6318

                      Originally posted by BigPimping
                      It?s high time for mass disobedience. I can?t imagine they could even put all of us in jail or take us to court.

                      Yep

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                      • #41
                        plinker202020
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2020
                        • 819

                        Originally posted by BigPimping
                        It?s high time for mass disobedience. I can?t imagine they could even put all of us in jail or take us to court.
                        You’re still obeying?
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                        • #42
                          XDJYo
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                          • Apr 2012
                          • 6938

                          It doesn't matter. The 9th could agree w/Benitez and say AW bans go against the 2A, but CA will just turn around and enact some other backdoor law or fee or permitting/licensing scheme to delay and make it crazy expensive to shoot.

                          SCOTUS ruled in Bruen that CCW is the law of the land. How many counties are still over a year to issue? Even if they issued on the spot, what will happen on 1/1/24 due to SB2?

                          This state blows.
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                          • #43
                            APeter001
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                            • May 2014
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                            In the mean time it gets a lot of BS headlines "Assault weapons ban overturned" which to us in the real world means nothing. Clickbait.

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                            • #44
                              Snoopy47
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                              • Aug 2010
                              • 3885

                              So the welded Comps on my G34 slides will be money poorly spent.

                              Yes, I know about the stay. Don't go buying any normal barrels for compensators just yet.
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                              • #45
                                Angrysnarf
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                                • Oct 2015
                                • 2860

                                So freedom Sunday?

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