Why no ?make me an offer? forum?

[munkeeboi]

it also encourages less than moral ways of doing business. Not that the current system eradicates it, but it would be the wild wild west of people complaining about deals that went sideways.

For that reason alone, it's worth not changing anything.

If you want to change something, I'd add not being able to sell until a fixed amount of time as a member and a certain number of posts (not including any in the Off topic forum)

[BOBGBA]

Because Rule #9 works just fine.

9) For Sale threads must have a price listed.
If you are unsure of what you want to ask for an item list a price you think is slightly higher than what you want to get and simply state, 'willing to negotiate'. You can also add 'OBO' (Or Best Offer) after your projected price. While this means you are willing to entertain offers it is NOT a license to auction, neither does it mean that it is acceptable to take a higher offer after you have agreed to a price and a deal. The listing price must be one the seller would accept if a buyer were to make an offer at that price. Editing the original post to raise the price after an offer at that price has been made creating a 'hidden auction' is unacceptable. The seller may accept an offer higher than the price listed, either from motivated buyer or due to unique circumstance such as special shipping requirements providing no offer or deal has been made at the listed price prior to the higher offer.

[lexo98]

At one point this was a place where enthusiasts offered great deals to others in the community. At one point

[Like2fly]

A bit off topic, but…… I don’t understand why so many sellers don’t want anyone to know what they actually sold their gun for.

[9Cal_OC]

A bit off topic, but?? I don?t understand why so many sellers don?t want anyone to know what they actually sold their gun for.

Likely to not be messaged where sellers think it’s still available.

I’ve seen a few posts with $old or SPF in price and someone’s posts “Still for Sale?”

If one is curious about prices, PM the seller. I have on a few occasions to get a baseline.

[plinker202020]

At one point this was a place where enthusiasts offered great deals to others in the community. At one point

There is a difference between offering a great deal and giving something away for a song.

I posed the original question because I have some items I want gone but have no clue about their value.

As an example, I was trying to get rid of some old guns that I inherited, including a 1967 Walther PPK. I threw out $750 for it and my mailbox blew up. I realized that I offered it for a song. After a lot of searching I found one in identical condition on an auction site that sold for $2,961. I also joined a Walther forum and tried to ask people what a fair ask would be (while willing to negotiate) and have gotten responses all over the place.

I was hoping to use the money from the sale to help pay for a hunting trip for me and my son in November so, while I do not want to scalp anyone, I do not want to leave too much money sitting on the table, and I would like a quick turnaround.

Another example is reloading setup I bought during the last ammo drought. I probably paid too much, am only looking for fair value, but there are so many pieces that I can?t be bothered to start researching all of them. I have no time to reload, nor time to research, so it all just sits there collecting dust.

I just want to make clear that my question has nothing to do with ripping other Calgunners off, but rather it is about convenience. When you post a thread asking about value you get accused of breaking rules and trying to get an auction going.

At the end of the day I can just keep the stuff I have no interest in till I go tits up and let it be a headache for someone else, but I would like to see it go to someone who will use and enjoy it. At a price where both sides will be happy.

[Old Marine]

There are benefits of an auction site and disadvantages.

I search for sale forums here because it has zero disadvantages. Plus I am keeping another weapon on the state, helping a fellow like minded gun owner.

[CSACANNONEER]

There is a difference between offering a great deal and giving something away for a song.

I posed the original question because I have some items I want gone but have no clue about their value.

As an example, I was trying to get rid of some old guns that I inherited, including a 1967 Walther PPK. I threw out $750 for it and my mailbox blew up. I realized that I offered it for a song. After a lot of searching I found one in identical condition on an auction site that sold for $2,961. I also joined a Walther forum and tried to ask people what a fair ask would be (while willing to negotiate) and have gotten responses all over the place.

I was hoping to use the money from the sale to help pay for a hunting trip for me and my son in November so, while I do not want to scalp anyone, I do not want to leave too much money sitting on the table, and I would like a quick turnaround.

Another example is reloading setup I bought during the last ammo drought. I probably paid too much, am only looking for fair value, but there are so many pieces that I can?t be bothered to start researching all of them. I have no time to reload, nor time to research, so it all just sits there collecting dust.

I just want to make clear that my question has nothing to do with ripping other Calgunners off, but rather it is about convenience. When you post a thread asking about value you get accused of breaking rules and trying to get an auction going.

At the end of the day I can just keep the stuff I have no interest in till I go tits up and let it be a headache for someone else, but I would like to see it go to someone who will use and enjoy it. At a price where both sides will be happy.

So, you don't want to research prices before posting something for sale? If that's the case, simply use an auction site and pay for the privilege of getting your idea of fair market value without investing your time doing the research first. Yea, you'll pay for the convenience but, your item will realize "fair market value".

I, for one, don't want to make an offer on this forum and then wait days, weeks, months, until the "seller" decides to accept or decline my offer. When I want to buy at auction, at least I know the terms of the auction like a starting bid, the exact time the auction is closing and the "seller" WILL sell it at that point unless a reserve was indicated prior to the bidding being started.

In the end, if you chose to use a website to help you sell anything, you must agree to those terms prior to using the site. If you feel you've listed something too low and you haven't got a response, raise the price. If you get a ton of responses and decide not to sell the item for the price YOU decided on (or less), you're a rat fink and should be banned from selling on that site. I get it, you're upset because YOU made choices that you now regret. That's your fault and problem not anyone else's, right?

[plinker202020]

So, you don't want to research prices before posting something for sale? If that's the case, simply use an auction site and pay for the privilege of getting your idea of fair market value without investing your time doing the research first. Yea, you'll pay for the convenience but, your item will realize "fair market value".

I, for one, don't want to make an offer on this forum and then wait days, weeks, months, until the "seller" decides to accept or decline my offer. When I want to buy at auction, at least I know the terms of the auction like a starting bid, the exact time the auction is closing and the "seller" WILL sell it at that point unless a reserve was indicated prior to the bidding being started.

In the end, if you chose to use a website to help you sell anything, you must agree to those terms prior to using the site. If you feel you've listed something too low and you haven't got a response, raise the price. If you get a ton of responses and decide not to sell the item for the price YOU decided on (or less), you're a rat fink and should be banned from selling on that site. I get it, you're upset because YOU made choices that you now regret. That's your fault and problem not anyone else's, right?

Must be rough going through life reading upset into everything. Which part of any of my posts says upset to you. Literally the only poster on this thread that is showing any emotion about this topic is you. Feel free to refrain if engaging is getting your panties in a twist.

[BOBGBA]

Use these guys (no research required).

https://lsbauctions.com/

[IVC]

I posed the original question because I have some items I want gone but have no clue about their value.

As an example, I was trying to get rid of some old guns that I inherited, including a 1967 Walther PPK. I threw out $750 for it and my mailbox blew up. I realized that I offered it for a song.

From what you write, I assume you didn't sell the gun even after you got the asking price, which is a problem. Technically, you could be banned from the sales forum for doing it. Nobody is going to make a big deal if it happens once, like it seems to be in your case, but imagine if the forum turned into "bait and switch" that is free for all. And offering an item for sale at a bait price, then not selling until the price is much higher is the definition of "bait and switch."

Again, if you're not sure, start high and work your way down. You could've started at 3K and included "OBO." Sure it would signal to the buyers that you're not serious, but that's exactly the point - those who don't want to play games will just skip it so they don't waste their time with someone who won't sell the item in the end.

And finally, if you "offered it for a song," the solution is to figure out what it was worth prior to posting it for sale, not trying to find a way to have everyone else work for you and determine the best price for *you*. Yes, you don't want to waste *your* time figuring it out, but buyers certainly shouldn't waste *their* time to work for *you*.

Auction houses charge fee for their services, so that gives you an idea of the value of both price research and bringing customers willing to bid to the auction. Work and time cost money.

[IVC]

Another example is reloading setup I bought during the last ammo drought. I probably paid too much, am only looking for fair value, but there are so many pieces that I can?t be bothered to start researching all of them. I have no time to reload, nor time to research, so it all just sits there collecting dust.

So your solution is to let others do the research for you and give you the best price, the lowest when you're the buyer and the highest when you're the seller?

Looks like you should try the auction sites. Just don't get disappointed when you don't get the price you thought you should, you pay commission on top of it, and you can't pull out of the deal because you don't like the end result.

[BigPimping]

And again, more reasoning why the marketplace should only be for contributors

[isntzen]

I propose; sale listings without charge, for 2 weeks only. Beginning with the 15th day - each bump should cost $2. This would rid us of the sale threads with laughable pricing that outlast freeze dried food.

As a browser with a sincere interest in purchasing, I despise all of the craptext I'm required to wade through to find reasonably priced desirable goods. Not sorry if this works toward the consternation of narcissistic profiteers and nitwits listing the entire contents of their mother's garage.

[CSACANNONEER]

Must be rough going through life reading upset into everything. Which part of any of my posts says upset to you. Literally the only poster on this thread that is showing any emotion about this topic is you. Feel free to refrain if engaging is getting your panties in a twist.

I think I'm stating facts not emotions. If you think my pointing out the idiocy regarding the lack of thought and logic that you put into your question is emotional then, I guess I'm being emotional. If you really want a free online auction site, feel free to make and run one yourself. You could also consider starting a firearms friendly banking site to compliment your auction site. I bet you could call it something like "gunpal".