Why no ?make me an offer? forum?

[OCEquestrian]

I get that nobody wants auctions on here, although I don?t really understand why, but what better way to get current value for an item? If it was a separate forum people who are opposed to the idea could just stay out.

I know everyone wants sellers to research through other sites but there are so many unknown variables to that.

Not sure why a member shouldn?t be able to post an item, say accepting offers through PMs only, and maybe choose to come back to post the final price or trade.

Please name ANY other gun forum with a "auction" marketplace subforum? You want an auction, GunBroker is a click away.

And again, more reasoning why the marketplace should only be for contributors

That would only limit substantially the number of potential buyers and sellers...it would limit both availability and pricing.

[hambam105]

If I sell a gun too cheap how do I back out of the deal?

[benjamin101677]

This is a pretty much overall free site ; endless you contribute to calguns. So we should just be happy to have what we have. There are many ideas about things that in theory could work for this site but then it would cost money for software: moderators to review things etc. making it not feasible.

Talk to the moderators now they have a hard enough time getting people to post where they should in forums; dealing with scammers, etc.

[lexo98]

And again, more reasoning why the marketplace should only be for contributors

I second that. Especially after hearing why this post was started.I hope I never do, but if I do ever part with anything I’ll be sure to post it in the contributor section.

[Dan_Eastvale]

If I sell a gun too cheap how do I back out of the deal?

Exactly. If one (OP) doesn’t think they have the time to research a value, then they should suck it up, and not be a douch and refuse their OWN advertised price.
Their rationale is unethical!!!

[BrokerB]

You send a PM that says.. Would you sell it as this price? Then proceed from here. I have had idiotic offers before..just say "no thank you". Bite your tongue and don't say..Are you a f ing retard..go to hell : )

You can make offers on mine..I even would consider bulk buy discount: )

[IVC]

Exactly. If one (OP) doesn?t think they have the time to research a value, then they should suck it up, and not be a douch and refuse their OWN advertised price.
Their rationale is unethical!!!

I think it's one person. Unless schizophrenia (sic). But yes, he should honor his own price.

[norcalAF]

There is a difference between offering a great deal and giving something away for a song.

I posed the original question because I have some items I want gone but have no clue about their value.

As an example, I was trying to get rid of some old guns that I inherited, including a 1967 Walther PPK. I threw out $750 for it and my mailbox blew up. I realized that I offered it for a song. After a lot of searching I found one in identical condition on an auction site that sold for $2,961. I also joined a Walther forum and tried to ask people what a fair ask would be (while willing to negotiate) and have gotten responses all over the place.

I was hoping to use the money from the sale to help pay for a hunting trip for me and my son in November so, while I do not want to scalp anyone, I do not want to leave too much money sitting on the table, and I would like a quick turnaround.

Another example is reloading setup I bought during the last ammo drought. I probably paid too much, am only looking for fair value, but there are so many pieces that I can?t be bothered to start researching all of them. I have no time to reload, nor time to research, so it all just sits there collecting dust.

I just want to make clear that my question has nothing to do with ripping other Calgunners off, but rather it is about convenience. When you post a thread asking about value you get accused of breaking rules and trying to get an auction going.

At the end of the day I can just keep the stuff I have no interest in till I go tits up and let it be a headache for someone else, but I would like to see it go to someone who will use and enjoy it. At a price where both sides will be happy.

Sounds like you didn't do some research before posting the ad. You don't have to go through with the sale just because someone says they will take it. I'm not saying ghost folks, I'm saying politely inform the potential buyer that you have realized your pricing was out of line with the market for such items and the mistake was yours. Perhaps offer a bit of deal off market value if you feel so inclined. That said, I did score a LNIB with Dawson sights Gen4 G35 for $450 once. The seller had a legit ZEV G24 for another $1000 that I am still kicking myself for not getting, and it's been 5 years lol.

[norcalAF]

Please name ANY other gun forum with a "auction" marketplace subforum? You want an auction, GunBroker is a click away.



That would only limit substantially the number of potential buyers and sellers...it would limit both availability and pricing.

Or it would greatly increase site support and funding like over at bladeforums...

[norcalAF]

If I sell a gun too cheap how do I back out of the deal?

Personally, until money changes hands or some sort of economic impact is imposed on the buyer, either party can cancel the transaction and remain ethically pure, provided the seller was not trying to gauge the market and made a genuine mistake in pricing. If money has changed hands or you have obligated the buyer in some fashion, then absolutely you should go through with the deal or make the buyer whole in some other fashion. That's my take anyways. I negotiate these things for a living.

[IVC]

Personally, until money changes hands or some sort of economic impact is imposed on the buyer, either party can cancel the transaction and remain ethically pure, provided the seller was not trying to gauge the market and made a genuine mistake in pricing.

Then advertising a car at your local dealership where not even a single one is available at that price, advertising any event with prices that aren't offered, or any other bait-and-switch would be "ethically pure" simply because the money didn't exchange hands?

The essence of bait-and-switch is that the buyer is always free to leave. The bait price is there to bring foot traffic and waste buyer's time. I would agree with you about "genuine mistake," but that's limited to misprint or a clear blunder. It's not a "genuine mistake" to change mind based on demand or how quickly the person receives an offer.

What happened in the OP wasn't a genuine mistake, it was refusal to sell at the asking price.

[9Cal_OC]

Then advertising a car at your local dealership where not even a single one is available at that price, advertising any event with prices that aren't offered, or any other bait-and-switch would be "ethically pure" simply because the money didn't exchange hands?

The essence of bait-and-switch is that the buyer is always free to leave. The bait price is there to bring foot traffic and waste buyer's time. I would agree with you about "genuine mistake," but that's limited to misprint or a clear blunder. It's not a "genuine mistake" to change mind based on demand or how quickly the person receives an offer.

What happened in the OP wasn't a genuine mistake, it was refusal to sell at the asking price.

Shh, you?re telling it like it is. Can?t have none of that here

Realize OP needs extra money for a hunting trip with his son. That trumps making good on a deal here

[Oldmandan]

There is a difference between offering a great deal and giving something away for a song.

I posed the original question because I have some items I want gone but have no clue about their value.

As an example, I was trying to get rid of some old guns that I inherited, including a 1967 Walther PPK. I threw out $750 for it and my mailbox blew up. I realized that I offered it for a song. After a lot of searching I found one in identical condition on an auction site that sold for $2,961. I also joined a Walther forum and tried to ask people what a fair ask would be (while willing to negotiate) and have gotten responses all over the place.

I was hoping to use the money from the sale to help pay for a hunting trip for me and my son in November so, while I do not want to scalp anyone, I do not want to leave too much money sitting on the table, and I would like a quick turnaround.

Another example is reloading setup I bought during the last ammo drought. I probably paid too much, am only looking for fair value, but there are so many pieces that I can?t be bothered to start researching all of them. I have no time to reload, nor time to research, so it all just sits there collecting dust.

I just want to make clear that my question has nothing to do with ripping other Calgunners off, but rather it is about convenience. When you post a thread asking about value you get accused of breaking rules and trying to get an auction going.

At the end of the day I can just keep the stuff I have no interest in till I go tits up and let it be a headache for someone else, but I would like to see it go to someone who will use and enjoy it. At a price where both sides will be happy.

You need to become a seller on Gunbroker, you could have gotten the real value there, with only having to pay their fee

I started selling on GB because all I would get around here for my big ticket guns is random trades, $1000 knives, $1500 Glocks and things like that?

GB has some weird folks who are willing to spend tons of money on what they want, it?s great