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  • #31
    Coolguy101
    Senior Member
    • May 2011
    • 655

    Originally posted by acaligunner
    Oh you mean unjust laws that restrict and take away ca citizens rights like the 2nd amendment ?

    Govt is about controlling and giving itself power and does little for the people when you consider all aspects.

    Your insight is a bit flawed, just like your opinion on open carrying.
    Come on now, you gotta admit that you walked right into that one when you said that. That was an easy softball that I smacked out of the park.

    I know you had your chest was puffed out, and your fingers were trembling when you typed it, and now you don't want to admit you lost that one.

    Its been pretty entertaining. Thank you

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    • #32
      acaligunner
      Calguns Addict
      • Oct 2008
      • 7724

      Originally posted by Coolguy101
      Come on now, you gotta admit that you walked right into that one when you said that. That was an easy softball that I smacked out of the park.

      I know you had your chest was puffed out, and your fingers were trembling when you typed it, and now you don't want to admit you lost that one.

      It?s been pretty entertaining. Thank you
      I?ll compare that to your inept opinion on open carry.

      You having ? visited ? Arizona and not lived there.

      You never having open carried in a major city ( phoenix was number six at the time I lived there ), and generally not even having a clue on any kind of real substance.

      There?s always someone as clueless as you trying to be ? cool ? LOL !!

      Go back to bed son - your boring us. Thank you.
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      • #33
        ar15robert
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2002
        • 2489

        Have the choice of open or concealed here in az. IMO concealed in the city for sure.

        Now in the desert or woods I?ll open carry. Both have their pluses

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        • #34
          rplaw
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2014
          • 1808

          Originally posted by ar15robert
          Have the choice of open or concealed here in az. IMO concealed in the city for sure.

          Now in the desert or woods I?ll open carry. Both have their pluses
          The issue with your viewpoint is that it doesn't take into account the fact that the State dictates which way you must carry regardless of appropriateness or necessity.

          To compensate when the State outlaws OC in favor of CC, the State will provide space outside of incorporated cities and outside of prohibited areas outside of incorporated cities where your full panoply of Rights can be exercised. A situation which creates a 2-tier constitutional Right, a limited Right inside the described areas and an unrestricted Right outside those areas.

          On the other hand, OC everywhere doesn't restrict your Rights at all (other than traditionally and historically recognized sensitive places). The problem with this, as we saw, are the snowflakes and Karens of the world.


          Me, I'd rather it be set up so no one has to worry about OC or CC. That way when it rains you can put on a raincoat without concern about being popped for CC without a permit. Or removing your jacket or coat to change a tire on a hot day.
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          • #35
            isntzen
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2018
            • 605

            Originally posted by rplaw
            The issue with your viewpoint is that it doesn't take into account the fact that the State dictates which way you must carry regardless of appropriateness or necessity.

            To compensate when the State outlaws OC in favor of CC, the State will provide space outside of incorporated cities and outside of prohibited areas outside of incorporated cities where your full panoply of Rights can be exercised. A situation which creates a 2-tier constitutional Right, a limited Right inside the described areas and an unrestricted Right outside those areas.

            On the other hand, OC everywhere doesn't restrict your Rights at all (other than traditionally and historically recognized sensitive places). The problem with this, as we saw, are the snowflakes and Karens of the world.


            Me, I'd rather it be set up so no one has to worry about OC or CC. That way when it rains you can put on a raincoat without concern about being popped for CC without a permit. Or removing your jacket or coat to change a tire on a hot day.
            Been wondering about this.

            There certainly weren't any laws restricting open carry circa 1791. I mean, most were carrying muskets right? Others would have pistols inside a band or coat.

            Seems to me any law restricting the manner of carry would be without pedigree, no?

            By the way, I think the snowflakes and Karen's need to adjust their expectations when it comes to Constitutionally protected rights. And I think we should help them realize this adjustment.
            Last edited by isntzen; 09-21-2023, 3:59 AM.

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            • #36
              BrokerB
              Calguns Addict
              • Sep 2010
              • 5327

              I agree. IWB of my ar pistol and 10.5" barrel is tough as it looks like I have 2 x peni's
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              • #37
                BigPimping
                CGN Contributor
                • Feb 2010
                • 21443

                Move out of Santa Clara, and to the city of Concord. Get a CCW in five weeks.
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                • #38
                  IVC
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 17594

                  Originally posted by Coolguy101
                  Actually, we do have the authority to tell others how they must behave. That's why laws exist.
                  No, we don't tell people how to behave, we can only set the boundaries with the laws. Laws are not a legislated morality.

                  But in this case your argument is against you, because the open carry that you observed and disparaged was *legal.* And my argument wasn't that you should like it or do it, only that you should do what you like and let others do what they like. Tolerate each other. That's all.
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