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  • sfvshooter
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2016
    • 1200

    Unsolicited "advice" from Oaktree RSO's

    I was at Oaktree today with a couple inexperienced shooters and I brought an AR, AK, and a shotgun for them to shoot.

    While we were shooting both RSO's came up to us telling us the AR was ejecting at 4 o' clock so it needed a heavier buffer since it was overgassed. They insisted 1 o'clock is undergassed, 3 o'clock is properly gassed, and 4 o'clock is overgassed.

    I told them if it was overgassed, it would be ejecting at 1 o' clock like a typical Mini 14 or an AK. They did the we're-RSO's-and-we-know-what-we're-talking-about explanation of an undergassed/overgassed rifle. I didn't want the inexperienced shooters with me to get distracted so I told the RSO's ok. However, before we left about 30 minutes later, I pulled an ejection pattern chart on my phone and showed it to the RSO's.

    I've noticed RSO's giving advice to shooters on the range before and now I wonder how many times they've told new/inexperienced shooters something incorrect.
    Too many rifles, not enough time...
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    sarbiker
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2014
    • 750

    Interesting post. I'll keep that in mind next time I'm at the range.
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    • #3
      IVC
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jul 2010
      • 17621

      I'm shocked, shocked to hear that gun-related "professionals" would give unsolicited and/or incorrect advice. Shocked!
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      • #4
        acaligunner
        Calguns Addict
        • Oct 2008
        • 7803

        I just would have said ? ahh Chet you?s guys are right I?m sooo stupid ?

        Then turned around and kept shooting

        If the newbies asked if they were right I?d say they don?t know dk !!
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        • #5
          TrailerparkTrash
          Veteran Member
          • Oct 2005
          • 4249

          I woulda said, “noted.” Then I woulda kept shooting and not cared where my cases eject to, just as long as the rifle ejects and shoots.
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          • #6
            The Gleam
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Feb 2011
            • 12700

            Did they try to sell you an Armatix pistol too?

            Never mind, they were probably too busy stocking shelves with hot sellers like 'Gunsticles'.

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            Last edited by The Gleam; 07-09-2023, 10:00 PM.
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            Originally posted by Librarian
            What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

            If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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            • #7
              stormvet
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Mar 2010
              • 12681

              Bad advice is everywhere, same thing happens in gun shops.

              I rarely ever go to ranges with range staff. I prefer to be my own RSO.
              Im a warmonger baby, I got blood in my eyes and I'm looking at you.

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              • #8
                L.A. Saiga
                Senior Member
                • May 2012
                • 1787

                Here's my iTrader feedback: (iTrader score is 244. I have ZERO negative feedback) https://www.calguns.net/forum/market...user-l-a-saiga

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                • #9
                  sfvshooter
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2016
                  • 1200

                  I've been shooting there for years and they haven't said much to me except to ask me every now and then what I'm shooting. I bring along a couple new shooters and they're dying to share their wisdom on various shooting-related topics.
                  Too many rifles, not enough time...

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                  • #10
                    The Gleam
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 12700

                    Originally posted by sfvshooter
                    I've been shooting there for years and they haven't said much to me except to ask me every now and then what I'm shooting. I bring along a couple new shooters and they're dying to share their wisdom on various shooting-related topics.
                    Were the 'new shooters' 34-24-36 and genuinely female?

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                    Originally posted by Librarian
                    What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                    If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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                    • #11
                      ARDude
                      Veteran Member
                      • May 2006
                      • 2723

                      Should've told them the reason for shell deflectors on AR's is to keep lefties from getting shells in their faces when it ejects at the "normal" 4 o'clock pattern.
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                      • #12
                        Mayor McRifle
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Dec 2013
                        • 7686

                        Oaktree? Were they wearing Armatix smart gun watches?
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                        • #13
                          Snoopy47
                          Veteran Member
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 3885

                          I'm an RSO at Sunnyvale Rod and Gun.

                          I don't see folks walking up and down bowling lanes or a driving range for golf spewing out wisdom. So I don't bother them at gun ranges so long as they follow all the safety protocols and range rules.

                          People will figure their own crap out eventually.

                          Don't ruin their extra curricular time.
                          Before there was Polymer there was Accuracy.

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                          • #14
                            Big Chudungus
                            Banned
                            • Jun 2021
                            • 3456

                            wannabe "authority figures" (where everyone and their uncle is packing loaded guns no less) trying to be helpful but being mildly pesky doling out technical advice that is about legit issue but got finer points transposed or maybe you heard it wrong?

                            First World (aka "White Girl") Problem.

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                            • #15
                              boattail
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2014
                              • 965

                              Never shot at a range with a RSO. Did shoot as a quest at a range that afterwords I swore I would never join. We were shooting on the pistol range with only one other shooter on site. He came over to tell me I could not shoot my carbine on the pistol range. I informed him it was loaded with 38 special and kept shooting.

                              Later during a cease fire I stepped off the concrete to pick up my brass and he scolded me again for doing that. I politely asked him when a better time to pick up my brass would be. He responded that I just need to leave them lay until the end of the day.

                              I decided to stop shooting and just watch my buddy at that point. When the nosy guy swept all of us with a loaded pistol I made a spectacle of the idiot by hitting deck and screaming gun as loud as I could. Dummy left not long after that.

                              At the range I belong to nobody has ever bothered me except when I was test firing a shotgun after I had repaired it. I was triple tapping a model 50 as fast as it would fire. Older than me guy came over to see what I had as it sounded like a full auto. Once he realized what it was and why I was banging it he went back to his lane.

                              I never give advice at the range unless asked. I shoot my way you do yours.
                              JAC

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