Juggernaut Hellfighter Kit

[ShakG83]

I went to the range to shoot for the first time, my Ruger 556 (its my first AR). This Juggernaut kit just gave me problems the whole time. The button that releases the receiver wasnt working properly and i kept having trouble getting the magazine out. What do i need to do to not embarrass myself again and just shoot, release the mag, put in a new mag, and shoot again.

[ARDude]

My opinion....make it featureless.

[Quiet]

My opinion....make it featureless.

[alpha_romeo_XV]

Who installed the kit? Is the gap set correctly? I put one in an AR9 build and even with a mag adapter for uzi mags in a std AR15 lower the kit worked just fine for me. I'm out of CA now and took it off and would give it and a few bullets button away.

[kcheung2]

I went to the range to shoot for the first time, my Ruger 556 (its my first AR). This Juggernaut kit just gave me problems the whole time. The button that releases the receiver wasnt working properly and i kept having trouble getting the magazine out. What do i need to do to not embarrass myself again and just shoot, release the mag, put in a new mag, and shoot again.

I'll add to the chorus of going with a featureless configuration.

There's a pattern, new shooters generally get a fixed-mag AR because it looks like an AR, but the function is different. Experienced shooters get a featureless AR because even though the look is weird, the function is exactly the same as a free-state AR.

[Tere_Hanges]

Go featureless. And sell the hellfighter to another sucker. Oops.. did I just say that out loud?

A flashhider, vertical forward grip, and telescoping stock are pretty much cosmetic to me.

I'll gladly trade a pistol grip for a standard mag release if thats the choice Im forced to make.

Pinned stock, thread protector, and featureless grip:


Rifle stock, brake, and featureless grip:

[Zenderfall]

Lots of potential problems with fixed mag AR's, from mag not releasing, to BCG getting stuck, to the rear pin getting stuck, to not being able to separate the upper/lower.

Yeah featureless looks and feels ugly, but it works and has fewer potential issues. Like everyone else said, go featureless.

[Tere_Hanges]

Yeah featureless looks and feels ugly, but it works and has fewer potential issues.

It depends on how you go featureless. Thordson stocks are fugly. My guns aren't ugly and you get used to the featureless grip, at least enough to use the gun well. The laws here suck but fixed mag makes it even worse.

[olddirtygerm]

I switched my dad's rifle from the hellfighter to featureless and think it's the way to go. Of all the ugly featureless grips I like the Sparrow Dynamics one.

[G_FNH57]

I have the AR Maglock and it seems to work

[mk2dave]

In my limited experience, the Hellfire system can be difficult. I don't know if it's bad design or if it's tricky to install, but it seems to be reluctant to work correctly.

Going featureless is a lot less troublesome, and requires minimal training depending on the chosen grip.

Form or function, its up to you.

[Capybara]

Unless you decide to buy an AR pistol, then you don't have a choice and have to go fixed.

[mustangsixtwoseven_five]

Hellfighter is JUNK and I personally have seen problem after problem at the range. Featureless is the only true safe way to go imho in this state.

[Scratch705]

like others have said, featureless.

my reason for going featureless was the fact that the pistol grip was the only true thing i was missing from a normal rifle. the muzzle device and stock are only mild inconvenience / non-starters for me.

and with the grip wraps, you can convert back to normal grip in minutes with a screw driver and spare grip (when legal to do like out of state)

[NorcalGSG]

I have seen them need the little tab that goes between the upper and lower when the mag release is pushed need to be sanded down thinner to work right before.