Home defense pistol

[2Asupport]

Just need to know the basics for home defense mods that are not recommended.

I know CCW pistols have strict guidelines regarding modifications to the gun.

My concern is for home defense/night stand pistol. Currently I am thinking to swap out the pistol that only has an Apex trigger to a complete stock pistol.

If defending inside your property and family, would a modified pistol be a concern? Should I be concerned about the trigger, or is it okay to keep the pistol as my home defense? (not for CCW)

Thanks

Apologies if posted in the wrong section.

[BucDan]

No and no. You can easily argue that you grabbed your race gun. Or the gun most familiar. No big deal

[Preston-CLB]

The one that shoots the most reliably is the best option.
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[xblax619]

not gonna really matter. even if u use a bone stock gun, expect to see the inside of a court room, defending yourself in a civil suit, if not, a criminal case.

[cz74]

The bare bones pistol that you are most trained on and most comfortable with, in the very rare emergency you actually had to use it, will be taken away for evidence and released back to you depending on the investigation outcome and duration.

[Barang]

don't overthink it.

[RickD427]

Why do you believe that modifications are inadvisable for a home defense weapon?

Please check your facts when responding rather than regurgitate web legends.

Keep in mind that the civil court system has a lot of measures to ensure that irrelevant information does not come into court.

The real danger in modifying your weapon is where the modification IS relevant to the shooting. If you have a 2 pound trigger on a 1911 with shaved hooks, and you shoot a compliant suspect because you were startled and your reflexive actions caused the trigger to be pulled, stand by for that to be an issue at trial. But if you use the same weapon to intentionally shoot a suspect who is threatening you with deadly force, the modification is irrelevant. In the second example, your defense attorney has tools available to prevent the question from being asked of you in court.

[Enzo rules]

Stock gun that you train a lot with including off hand shooting, reloading and low light situations.

[Tripplet918]

If you are gonna over think it, get a self defense legal plan.

[L84CABO]

I know CCW pistols have strict guidelines regarding modifications to the gun.

This is not true.

There are NO federal or state laws that place specific limitations on CCW pistol modifications vs home defense pistols. Some individual Issuing Agencies (IA's) may place restrictions on CCW pistols but that is usually the exception and not the norm. For most jurisdictions, if the gun is legal to possess, you can carry it as long as you meet the requirements and pass whatever test your state may have.

You will, however, hear a lot of "experts" advising you not to modify your CCW pistol because it MIGHT make your defense harder if/when you shoot someone and get hauled into court. But this is strictly personal opinion and far from a "strict guideline."

[BAJ475]

Just need to know the basics for home defense mods that are not recommended.

I know CCW pistols have strict guidelines regarding modifications to the gun.

THAT depends in the IA.

My concern is for home defense/night stand pistol. Currently I am thinking to swap out the pistol that only has an Apex trigger to a complete stock pistol.

Before I left CA one of my carry pistols had both an Apex kit and an Apex trigger. It still has both and I carried it today with a freedom week mag, which of course means nothing in Idaho.

If defending inside your property and family, would a modified pistol be a concern? Should I be concerned about the trigger, or is it okay to keep the pistol as my home defense? (not for CCW)

You need to be careful about defending "property" in CA. Only Texas allows the use of lethal force to defend property. Idaho needs to get its act together in this respect! While I understand that the prosecution could comment on the fact that my firearms have been modified from their stock configuration, I am much more concerned that I have competent counsel that can keep a potential trial focused on the elements of self defense, and object to irrelevant BS about what modifications I made to a self defense weapon. Of course, the explanation for your modifications was to make your firearm more reliable to avoid accidental injury to innocent persons.

Thanks

Apologies if posted in the wrong section.

[BAJ475]

Why do you believe that modifications are inadvisable for a home defense weapon?

Please check your facts when responding rather than regurgitate web legends.

Keep in mind that the civil court system has a lot of measures to ensure that irrelevant information does not come into court.

The real danger in modifying your weapon is where the modification IS relevant to the shooting. If you have a 2 pound trigger on a 1911 with shaved hooks, and you shoot a compliant suspect because you were startled and your reflexive actions caused the trigger to be pulled, stand by for that to be an issue at trial. But if you use the same weapon to intentionally shoot a suspect who is threatening you with deadly force, the modification is irrelevant. In the second example, your defense attorney has tools available to prevent the question from being asked of you in court.

As usual, you are right on. The potential problem is ensuring that your defense counsel is as competent as you are. Unfortunately, many are not!

[TrappedinCalifornia]

Many choose an 'unmodified' handgun for both carry and home defense for the simple reason that...

The bare bones pistol that you are most trained on and most comfortable with, in the very rare emergency you actually had to use it, will be taken away for evidence and released back to you depending on the investigation outcome and duration.

They'd rather see a $500 - $700 handgun placed into the (ahem) 'safe keeping' of the System than a $2,000 - $5,000 'race gun.'

Let's just say that the horror stories (some of them actually being true or bearing the whiff of credibility) are things you'd rather not see happen to any firearm, let alone your 'favorite' or a keepsake or similar.

As others have stated, there are some IA's that have their own 'interpretation' of what is/isn't 'acceptable' as well.

The real trick, so far as I'm concerned, is there should be no modification you are not thoroughly trained on and familiar with.

[squeeze]

CCW is irrelevant when choosing a HD firearm. e.g. shotgun. Choose a gun that you will shoot well at 2AM while shaking like a leaf.
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[ForgeSST]

CCW is irrelevant when choosing a HD firearm. e.g. shotgun. Choose a gun that you will shoot well at 2AM while shaking like a leaf.

I Agree! My choice is Beretta 1301T with #4 buck and RDS for HD.