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  • stevosmith
    Member
    • Aug 2020
    • 106

    firearms in ccw permit

    My IA is Riverside and they allow up to 6 to a permit at a time. This can be changed out but with a fee and another qualification.

    With 6 on my permit I was informed I can only carry the maximum of 2 as a carry on my body. This doesn't make sense, so does this mean since I am carrying 2 as concealed, my other 4 that is on the permit has to be boxed and locked when transporting to the range or where ever I'm traveling to?
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    Mark49
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 1153

    Why would you need to carry more than 2 loaded guns on your person? It's just not necessary.

    San Bernardino County only allows 3 on our permit, and two on your person, so I think it's pretty standard policy.

    The other 4 box and lock, were not Rambo for god's sake!

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    • #3
      tabascoz28
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2016
      • 3364

      Didn't even know they let you carry 2 on the body. No extra mag either. I also don't foresee myself using more than the avg number of rounds should I need to defend myself after failing all avoidance, deescalation and escape techniques...

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      • #4
        CSACANNONEER
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        • Dec 2006
        • 44094

        Originally posted by Mark49
        Why would you need to carry more than 2 loaded guns on your person? It's just not necessary.

        San Bernardino County only allows 3 on our permit, and two on your person, so I think it's pretty standard policy.

        The other 4 box and lock, were not Rambo for god's sake!
        Why would anyone need to carry one gun? Yea, your post sounds like an anti gun argument.

        Being able to transport all the firearms listed on a LTC without having to have them unloaded and in a locked container is a plus. I know Ventura doesn't have a stupid restriction about how many can be carried at one time. In fact, this is the first I've heard of any AI imposing such a restriction. So, I think it's far from standard practice for an IA to make such a policy. For God's sake, please don't condone any anti 2A policy.
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        • #5
          9Cal_OC
          Calguns Addict
          • Apr 2019
          • 6688

          Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
          Why would anyone need to carry one gun? Yea, your post sounds like an anti gun argument.

          Being able to transport all the firearms listed on a LTC without having to have them unloaded and in a locked container is a plus. I know Ventura doesn't have a stupid restriction about how many can be carried at one time. In fact, this is the first I've heard of any AI imposing such a restriction. So, I think it's far from standard practice for an IA to make such a policy. For God's sake, please don't condone any anti 2A policy.
          First I’ve heard of that policy as well. But it’s SB, where they require an employer reference and don?t let you carry 10+ mags

          OC has no such policy.

          OP, who told you this ”policy” If it?s not listed on the conditions of your license, technically you can carry more than one firearm on your person loaded and/or drive with loaded guns stored in the vehicle (such as driving to range).
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          • #6
            stevosmith
            Member
            • Aug 2020
            • 106

            I would want to carry whatever it should take to make me feel safe, and if I'm approved to have 6 on my permit, I shouldn't be limited.

            Have you guys not seen all the youtube videos out there with malfunction guns, especially with semi? I've seen countless from good guys to bad guys, it happens. So my thought process is to have my primary carry as a revolver but since its so limited capactiy, my 2nd carry is a semi. These days, when being robbed, it's not just 1 robbery, it's multiple. You seen the news, there are multiple robbers.

            Renewing my permit, I was informed that 2 is the maximum a person can carry. ok so we need to box and lock the 4 to the range then, i guess. I don't want to do anything wrong but doesn't make sense since 6 is on my permit.

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            • #7
              9Cal_OC
              Calguns Addict
              • Apr 2019
              • 6688

              Originally posted by stevosmith
              Renewing my permit, I was informed that 2 is the maximum a person can carry. ok so we need to box and lock the 4 to the range then, i guess. I don't want to do anything wrong but doesn't make sense since 6 is on my permit.
              Who informed you of this?
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              • #8
                Lady Ruger
                Member
                • Jul 2021
                • 364

                Originally posted by Mark49
                Why would you need to carry more than 2 loaded guns on your person? It's just not necessary.

                San Bernardino County only allows 3 on our permit, and two on your person, so I think it's pretty standard policy.

                The other 4 box and lock, were not Rambo for god's sake!
                Please provide your source for that.

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                • #9
                  Preston-CLB
                  Veteran Member
                  • Apr 2018
                  • 4057

                  My permit says nothing about the number of weapons I can carry concealed. Permit allows 3 weapons. My current CCW has 2 weapons.

                  I may be wrong, and please correct me if I am...

                  If I am alone (key word is "alone") in my vehicle, I can have weapons that are on my permit loaded and unlocked in a case apart from a weapon on my person. If I have a passenger, I cannot legally do this: They must be unloaded and in a locked container apart from the weapon on my person.

                  In my opinion, carrying two weapons on my person would be very distracting and would also give a dirt bag an opportunity to grab one of them and use it against me. That's a chance I am not willing to take.
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                  • #10
                    DolphinFan
                    Veteran Member
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 2583

                    I?m not sure where their authority on this issues comes from.
                    I believe it is SUBJECTIVE, and therefore unconstitutional under Bruen. Objectively, you should be able to carry any handgun you own.
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                    • #11
                      L84CABO
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 8729

                      If your IA has imposed a 2 carry limit, then I would bite the bullet (PUN intended) and box/lock the other four during transport to the range.

                      I mean, you could ask you IA how they feel about that, but it's possible they may not view the question very favorably. I personally try to avoid garnering any attention from my IA. YMMV.
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                      • #12
                        stevosmith
                        Member
                        • Aug 2020
                        • 106

                        My CCW instructor informed me, as he knows the CCW policy best. I didn't see anything regarding this in the IA website about any limitations. I have a interview coming up and I will inquire further about this, as I want to have some clarity, so I don't break any rules with my permit.

                        I thought I would bring it up here since there are lots of experts with good experienced knowledge.
                        Last edited by stevosmith; 04-24-2023, 10:53 PM.

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                        • #13
                          9Cal_OC
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Apr 2019
                          • 6688

                          Originally posted by stevosmith
                          My CCW instructor informed me, as he knows the CCW policy best. I didn't see anything regarding this in the IA website about any limitations. I have a interview coming up and I will inquire further about this, as I want to have some clarity, so I don't break any rules with my permit.

                          I thought I would bring it up here since there are lots of experts with good experienced knowledge.
                          Best check with your IA?s written policy at the interview.
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                          • #14
                            MajorSideburns
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2013
                            • 1732

                            Originally posted by 9Cal_OC
                            Best check with your IA?s written policy at the interview.
                            His instructor probably modified his curriculum in anticipation of SB2. The new law coming in a few months will be a state law that limits you to carrying 2 handguns.



                            (k) An individual does not need to carry several firearms at any one time in order to effectively defend themselves. Studies have shown that, on average, individuals fire approximately two rounds when using a firearm in self-defense inside or outside of the home, including approximately 27 percent of incidents in which no shots are fired and the mere brandishing of the firearm is sufficient for self-defense. Limiting an individual to carrying no more than two firearms in public at any given time will not impair the ability of law-abiding, responsible individuals to engage in effective self-defense with a firearm.

                            (d) A licensee authorized to carry a firearm pursuant to this chapter shall not carry more than two firearms under the licensee’s control at one time.

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                            • #15
                              MajorSideburns
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2013
                              • 1732

                              Originally posted by Lady Ruger
                              Please provide your source for that.
                              His source is he spoke with the CA DOJ and the Brady bunch and took an advanced tactics home defense class from "two blasts through the door" double barrel Joe.

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