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  • #31
    cz74
    Senior Member
    • May 2020
    • 912

    We have the Fort Knox with simplex lock. Saw a youtube video the guy was able to punch out the entire lock using hammer and screwdriver.

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    • #32
      BrokerB
      Calguns Addict
      • Sep 2010
      • 5364

      99% of quick access are not slowing down a determined dirtbag thief. They are to keep it out of childrens and dumb "adults". A prybar will peel most of them open.
      Beans and Bullets

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      • #33
        n8vrmind
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2017
        • 1473

        Originally posted by cz74
        We have the Fort Knox with simplex lock. Saw a youtube video the guy was able to punch out the entire lock using hammer and screwdriver.
        VLine has a free retrofit kit for their simplex lock box that protects against this vulnerability

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        • #34
          Scooooter7
          Member
          • Jan 2013
          • 496

          Originally posted by BrokerB
          99% of quick access are not slowing down a determined dirtbag thief. They are to keep it out of childrens and dumb "adults". A prybar will peel most of them open.
          When my Step FIL passed away he left a locked box with no key. To open we used a simple crow bar, which destroyed the box, and revealed a SA 22 revolver.
          The Book of Daniel says "the writing is on the wall"

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          • #35
            deckhandmike
            Calguns Addict
            • Jan 2011
            • 8325

            Originally posted by BrokerB
            99% of quick access are not slowing down a determined dirtbag thief. They are to keep it out of childrens and dumb "adults". A prybar will peel most of them open.
            I didn?t even bolt my safe to my shelf because I?d rather someone just take the box rather than destroy my closet shelf trying prying it open.

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            • #36
              FAS1
              Member
              • Jun 2015
              • 386

              Originally posted by cz74
              We have the Fort Knox with simplex lock. Saw a youtube video the guy was able to punch out the entire lock using hammer and screwdriver.
              That vulnerability was discovered a couple years ago only after 60+ years of the Simplex lock being in service. You'll probably be OK, but now that it's been discovered and put online it will be better known.

              I know their current handgun safes have a reinforcement plate behind the lock as do the other handgun safes with a Simplex lock.

              Not sure about all the VLine handgun safes as they only state the Brute XD has a lock backing plate on their website. It's not mentioned on the other models.

              The FAS1 safes have had a lock backing cover since 2014 and was updated after the discovery to add two additional saddle brackets to the backside of the lock for added strength.
              Glenn

              FAS1 SAFE

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              • #37
                FAS1
                Member
                • Jun 2015
                • 386

                Originally posted by BrokerB
                99% of quick access are not slowing down a determined dirtbag thief. They are to keep it out of childrens and dumb "adults". A prybar will peel most of them open.
                I would agree, especially if they are made of 12-16GA steel. If you are buying one just to keep your kids out, they won't try to destroy it or even mark it up by trying to pry it. On the other hand, a thief couldn't care less what he destroys.

                If thieves are a concern because you keep your home defense pistol in there all the time, then you should look for a heavier gauge steel (10GA and up) and secure it to something solid, big, or heavy. The thicker steel the better and just like full size gun cabinets, RSC's, and safes can't be all lumped together, the same goes for handgun safes.

                Better quality, thicker steel, good locks, and bolted down will buy you more time and maybe enough that the thief goes for an easier target like all the electronics in your home.
                Glenn

                FAS1 SAFE

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                • #38
                  L84CABO
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 8719

                  Originally posted by Ewok55
                  A simplex lock has one problem, only 1084 combinations. A good lock box only buys access time. If you wrote down every possible combination, trying and crossing them off one by one would take about 30 minutes, leaving no sign of getting opened. That's probably longer than it would take to open other lockboxes. But, a simplex is for not so good for untrustworthy teenage kid with unlimited access time protection.
                  If you've got a teenager like this on your hands, you've got a lot bigger problems then what lockbox to choose. More like what psychiatrist to choose.

                  Also, don't forget you can bolster the security of these types of boxes. You can put the box in a locked drawer or store the box in a locked closet during the day. They also make monitors/cameras for safes that can trigger off a motion sensor and alert you if someone approaches the safe.

                  Good luck...and may the odds be ever in your favor!
                  "Kestryll I wanna lick your doughnut."

                  Fighter Pilot

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                  • #39
                    Mr.Cip
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2013
                    • 784

                    I have an American Security lockbox. I have it bolted to the floor. I also setup a basket to disguise it. It has a simplex combination lock. I?ve had bad luck with battery powered combinations in the past.


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                    • #40
                      PogoJack
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 2167

                      Does anyone sell a door/frame/lock combination for people who want to weld up their own 1/4inch wall boxes?
                      "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C.S. Lewis

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                      • #41
                        FAS1
                        Member
                        • Jun 2015
                        • 386

                        Originally posted by PogoJack
                        Does anyone sell a door/frame/lock combination for people who want to weld up their own 1/4inch wall boxes?
                        I haven't seen anything like that available.
                        Glenn

                        FAS1 SAFE

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                        • #42
                          rodralig
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Apr 2016
                          • 4262

                          Originally posted by EliteCorp
                          Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated. Looking for a box big enough to hold a Glock19 w/ a Surefire x300. Kids in the house, nightstand gun needs to be locked up.
                          I use Stopbox for my Glock 19 + TLR7 + HS407CO-X2.


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