We have the Fort Knox with simplex lock. Saw a youtube video the guy was able to punch out the entire lock using hammer and screwdriver.
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VLine has a free retrofit kit for their simplex lock box that protects against this vulnerability
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When my Step FIL passed away he left a locked box with no key. To open we used a simple crow bar, which destroyed the box, and revealed a SA 22 revolver.The Book of Daniel says "the writing is on the wall"Comment
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I didn?t even bolt my safe to my shelf because I?d rather someone just take the box rather than destroy my closet shelf trying prying it open.Comment
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That vulnerability was discovered a couple years ago only after 60+ years of the Simplex lock being in service. You'll probably be OK, but now that it's been discovered and put online it will be better known.
I know their current handgun safes have a reinforcement plate behind the lock as do the other handgun safes with a Simplex lock.
Not sure about all the VLine handgun safes as they only state the Brute XD has a lock backing plate on their website. It's not mentioned on the other models.
The FAS1 safes have had a lock backing cover since 2014 and was updated after the discovery to add two additional saddle brackets to the backside of the lock for added strength.Comment
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I would agree, especially if they are made of 12-16GA steel. If you are buying one just to keep your kids out, they won't try to destroy it or even mark it up by trying to pry it. On the other hand, a thief couldn't care less what he destroys.
If thieves are a concern because you keep your home defense pistol in there all the time, then you should look for a heavier gauge steel (10GA and up) and secure it to something solid, big, or heavy. The thicker steel the better and just like full size gun cabinets, RSC's, and safes can't be all lumped together, the same goes for handgun safes.
Better quality, thicker steel, good locks, and bolted down will buy you more time and maybe enough that the thief goes for an easier target like all the electronics in your home.Comment
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If you've got a teenager like this on your hands, you've got a lot bigger problems then what lockbox to choose. More like what psychiatrist to choose.A simplex lock has one problem, only 1084 combinations. A good lock box only buys access time. If you wrote down every possible combination, trying and crossing them off one by one would take about 30 minutes, leaving no sign of getting opened. That's probably longer than it would take to open other lockboxes. But, a simplex is for not so good for untrustworthy teenage kid with unlimited access time protection.
Also, don't forget you can bolster the security of these types of boxes. You can put the box in a locked drawer or store the box in a locked closet during the day. They also make monitors/cameras for safes that can trigger off a motion sensor and alert you if someone approaches the safe.
Good luck...and may the odds be ever in your favor!
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Does anyone sell a door/frame/lock combination for people who want to weld up their own 1/4inch wall boxes?"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C.S. LewisComment
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