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  • Fat Old Guy
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    • Mar 2020
    • 292

    Buying Handguns while on vacation

    I have an FFL 03 and COE and will be traveling to a free state to visit friends.

    If I stop by an LGS and happen to see something I like, can I buy a California compliant on roster handgun and bring it back into California, or must I ship it from an FFL in that free state to an FFL here in California?

    This is for a modern handgun not a C&R.
    Last edited by Fat Old Guy; 03-04-2023, 5:47 AM. Reason: typo corrections
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    9Cal_OC
    Calguns Addict
    • Apr 2019
    • 6688

    Ship to a CA FFL and complete the DROS.
    Freedom isn't free...

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    • #3
      Capybara
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      • Feb 2012
      • 15453

      You can only buy a C&R gun and bring it home with you. Non C&R must be shipped to your CA FFL01. That was how I bought my Ruger SR22 in Arizona when they were brand new, there were a ton of them out in Az and no California dealers had them in stock. Then six months after I bought it, it fell off the roster.
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      • #4
        Loaded_Potato
        Member
        • Apr 2015
        • 243

        Its unlikely you will find a CA compliant handgun for sale in a LGS in a free state...

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        • #5
          Fat Old Guy
          Member
          • Mar 2020
          • 292

          Originally posted by Loaded_Potato
          Its unlikely you will find a CA compliant handgun for sale in a LGS in a free state...

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          I might be able to find a CZ 97B. Who knows what someone might find out there? Never hurts to look.


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          1. Treat all guns as if loaded (even when you know they aren't).
          2. Never point the muzzle at anything you aren't willing to destroy.
          3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on target.
          4. Know your target and what is beyond it (avoid all collateral damage).

          "Si vis pacem, para bellum" - If you want peace, prepare for war

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          • #6
            Loaded_Potato
            Member
            • Apr 2015
            • 243

            Originally posted by Fat Old Guy
            I might be able to find a CZ 97B. Who knows what someone might find out there? Never hurts to look.


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            Yeah, you never know. Good luck with your search, hope you can find something!

            It only hurts when you see all the non CA compliant guns that you want to buy but can't. [emoji38]

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            • #7
              morrcarr67
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jul 2010
              • 15035

              Originally posted by Capybara
              You can only buy a C&R gun and bring it home with you. Non C&R must be shipped to your CA FFL01. That was how I bought my Ruger SR22 in Arizona when they were brand new, there were a ton of them out in Az and no California dealers had them in stock. Then six months after I bought it, it fell off the roster.
              It didn't "fall off the roster". It was removed from the roster. There's a big difference.

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              Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

              Originally posted by Erion929

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              • #8
                9Cal_OC
                Calguns Addict
                • Apr 2019
                • 6688

                Originally posted by morrcarr67
                It didn't "fall off the roster". It was removed from the roster. There's a big difference.

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                What?s the difference? I?m curious

                Ruger didn?t pay the extortion fee?
                Freedom isn't free...

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                • #9
                  Tere_Hanges
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 6270

                  Originally posted by Fat Old Guy
                  I have an FFL 03 and COE and will be traveling to a free state to visit friends.

                  If I stop by an LGS and happen to see something I like, can I buy a California compliant on roster handgun and bring it back into California, or must I ship it from an FFL in that free state to an FFL here in California?

                  This is for a modern handgun not a C&R.
                  Geezus. You have an 03 FFL and you aren't sure if you can use it to buy a non-C&R handgun out of state, cash and carry and bring it back? You're giving 03 FFL holders a bad name.

                  Its hard enough finding shops that even know what an 03FFL is and are willing to sell C&R firearms to an 03FFL holder. I imagine they'll laugh at you if you tried to cash and carry a non-C&R handgun with an 03FFL. Or they'll tell you "nice try" Fed boi.

                  This is beyond stupid. Just stop.

                  You cannot cash and carry any non-C&R firearm with an 03FFL anywhere at anytime period. A C&R 03FFL license is for C&R firearms its why the license is called a C&R license. Go figure right?
                  Last edited by Tere_Hanges; 03-04-2023, 10:55 PM.
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                  • #10
                    Fat Old Guy
                    Member
                    • Mar 2020
                    • 292

                    Originally posted by California_Deplorable
                    Geezus. You have an 03 FFL and you aren't sure if you can use it to buy a non-C&R handgun out of state, cash and carry and bring it back? You're giving 03 FFL holders a bad name.

                    Its hard enough finding shops that even know what an 03FFL is and are willing to sell C&R firearms to an 03FFL holder. I imagine they'll laugh at you if you tried to cash and carry a non-C&R handgun with an 03FFL. Or they'll tell you "nice try" Fed boi.

                    This is beyond stupid. Just stop.

                    You cannot cash and carry any non-C&R firearm with an 03FFL anywhere at anytime period. A C&R 03FFL license is for C&R firearms its why the license is called a C&R license. Go figure right?
                    Thanks for the stellar comment. Point taken.
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                    1. Treat all guns as if loaded (even when you know they aren't).
                    2. Never point the muzzle at anything you aren't willing to destroy.
                    3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on target.
                    4. Know your target and what is beyond it (avoid all collateral damage).

                    "Si vis pacem, para bellum" - If you want peace, prepare for war

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                    • #11
                      krb
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2016
                      • 1089

                      AFAIK - and I have FFL 03 - it's kind of a fake FFL just to allow you to buy ammo (and of course C&R). No one considers it an actual FFL. If you're into C&R great. Otherwise it's a workaround for ammo and not related to a real FFL.

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                      • #12
                        johncage
                        Banned
                        • Dec 2018
                        • 993

                        it's a scam run by the government to steal money from you

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                        • #13
                          Fat Old Guy
                          Member
                          • Mar 2020
                          • 292

                          Originally posted by johncage
                          it's a scam run by the government to steal money from you
                          I agree 100%, however, it is nice being able to shop for ammo online and have it delivered to your house. During the the dark days of the scamdemic and lockdowns when ammo was difficult to come by, having the ability to search the inter-webs for ammo and delivered to my home was great!
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                          1. Treat all guns as if loaded (even when you know they aren't).
                          2. Never point the muzzle at anything you aren't willing to destroy.
                          3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on target.
                          4. Know your target and what is beyond it (avoid all collateral damage).

                          "Si vis pacem, para bellum" - If you want peace, prepare for war

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                          • #14
                            Bullets&Whitewalls
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2012
                            • 2375

                            Originally posted by 9Cal_OC
                            What?s the difference? I?m curious

                            Ruger didn?t pay the extortion fee?
                            It?s because they made a change to slide I think if I remember right. They added a wear pin? I was lucky and got one while it was still listed. Love that little gun.

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                            • #15
                              Capybara
                              CGSSA Coordinator
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                              • Feb 2012
                              • 15453

                              Originally posted by morrcarr67
                              It didn't "fall off the roster". It was removed from the roster. There's a big difference.

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                              You are right, it was removed and didn't fall off. I think it was Ruger changed something slightly in the manufacturing process and the clowns at the DOJ removed it.

                              Falling off signifies that the renewal fee simply isn't paid for various reasons.
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