2021 Transfer to son

[67siia]

Quick question. In September of 2021, I moved to Florida. Before I left, I completed the inter family firearm transfer. Among the firearms transferred was a California compliant AR15. Today, I got a text from my son and he received a letter from the DOJ requesting pictures of the AR15... I asked my son to sent me a picture of the letter.

Has anyone experienced anything similar??

[morrcarr67]

Quick question. In September of 2021, I moved to Florida. Before I left, I completed the inter family firearm transfer. Among the firearms transferred was a California compliant AR15. Today, I got a text from my son and he received a letter from the DOJ requesting pictures of the AR15... I asked my son to sent me a picture of the letter.



Has anyone experienced anything similar??

Yes, it's a trap.

There is no legal reason to provide pictures of any firearms to the CA DOJ when submitting this; or any other, form. They are asking for them to "make sure the rifle is CA compliant". Of course if they see something that they don't like like they will send nice men out to the house around 0300 hours.

He could reply to them to provide the CA PC that requires him to provide pictures or do nothing at all.

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[Usmc0844spare]

Yes, it's a trap.

There is no legal reason to provide pictures of any firearms to the CA DOJ when submitting this; or any other, form. They are asking for them to "make sure the rifle is CA compliant". Of course if they see something that they don't like like they will send nice men out to the house around 0300 hours.

He could reply to them to provide the CA PC that requires him to provide pictures or do nothing at all.

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It's not clear to me who the AR15 was xferred to, the dad or the son.

If it went from son to dad, son should say "sorry, the rifle is out of state and my dad and I are not on speaking terms."

Dad to son (most likely I guess) then it looks like you are correct, could not find any mention of photo for intrafamilial xfer. That being said, I am not familiar with how purchasing a CA compliant AR15 works; perhaps when it does not go through an FFL there is some rule that indicates that a photo is required to "make sure" it's CA compliant that comes into effect?

[Librarian]

It's not clear to me who the AR15 was xferred to, the dad or the son.

If it went from son to dad, son should say "sorry, the rifle is out of state and my dad and I are not on speaking terms."

Dad to son (most likely I guess) then it looks like you are correct, could not find any mention of photo for intrafamilial xfer. That being said, I am not familiar with how purchasing a CA compliant AR15 works; perhaps when it does not go through an FFL there is some rule that indicates that a photo is required to "make sure" it's CA compliant that comes into effect?

No, no such requirement.

As an Oregon resident, I no longer have 'standing' to ask this, but I think some or several of the victims of CA-DOJ's illegal demands ought to contact CRPA, to see if they would write a legal notice to CA-DOJ amounting to 'get a warrant'.

[morrcarr67]

That being said, I am not familiar with how purchasing a CA compliant AR15 works; perhaps when it does not go through an FFL there is some rule that indicates that a photo is required to "make sure" it's CA compliant that comes into effect?

No such law exists.

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[67siia]

Father transferred to son. Son lives in California

It's not clear to me who the AR15 was xferred to, the dad or the son.

If it went from son to dad, son should say "sorry, the rifle is out of state and my dad and I are not on speaking terms."

Dad to son (most likely I guess) then it looks like you are correct, could not find any mention of photo for intrafamilial xfer. That being said, I am not familiar with how purchasing a CA compliant AR15 works; perhaps when it does not go through an FFL there is some rule that indicates that a photo is required to "make sure" it's CA compliant that comes into effect?

[DrewN]

Somewhat related: Does 1 in 30 apply to inheritance? It never occurred to me before, but it would take like 20 years for him to get everything transferred if it does.

[Librarian]

Somewhat related: Does 1 in 30 apply to inheritance? It never occurred to me before, but it would take like 20 years for him to get everything transferred if it does.

Mostly no.

Not intrafamilial, and not in-CA PPT.

Both CA and Federal law allow no-FFL transfer of inherited firearms; CA has the limitation of CA-defined immediate family, while Feds don't care.

Transfer to non-family 'strangers', any family outside the parent/child and grandparent/grandchild lines must use an FFL, and then for in-CA it would be a PPT, so again 1-in-30 does not usually apply (there's that Los Angeles thing).

[BrokerB]

F the traitorous CA doj...disgusting